Return-Path: Received: from mta21.charter.net ([216.33.127.81] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4790943 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:04:36 +0200 Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120730080845.UMOJ12025.mta21.charter.net@imp11> for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 04:08:45 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.14] ([71.94.133.66]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id gY8k1j00L1S6qBK05Y8lmb; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 04:08:45 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=8n69asTuZbMnXn9oCQM8qmqRc2QTO8vVbX5gOB99VVA= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=Vx6aIzdhH7H4BIXK4xUDUQ==:17 a=HTVtGTxIAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=Q_YBP6o961YiF5WRlbMA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=naD9dnBiXzUA:10 a=RFaxJ1YKWH0A:10 a=p3b_eOXHgIUA:10 a=36NbPPPybnEA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=Xr9tk9t-fcjAY1mNe9sA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=whzTWg-lIIwA:10 a=O7EI37bCG9MA:10 a=Vx6aIzdhH7H4BIXK4xUDUQ==:117 From: Jonathan Penzner Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8-256304785 Subject: Re: [AE] DVD Question Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 01:08:44 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) --Apple-Mail-8-256304785 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 That's pretty amazing. I'm a little wary of going that route because the = client expects the disk to play in any player ever to hit the shelves of = whatever the local version of Best Buy is in Europe. On Jul 30, 2012, at 12:59 AM, Greg Balint wrote: > My wife had to take a driver's course after getting a speeding ticket = to lower her fines. They allow you to rent a DVD course from = Blockbuster or the like, and watch it at home and take a test on the = content online..=20 >=20 > The course was 8 hours, and it was all on 1 DVD.. it was 4:3 SD = computer animated stuff, with text screen graphics and character = animation and stuff.. I was quite surprised while watching it, how clean = the footage was.. and we were watching it on our 130" front projection = screen TV.. =20 >=20 > Once i checked the disc, I realized why it looked fine and held so = much data. The disc was dual-sided dual-layered, which can hold up to = 17.4GB of data..=20 >=20 > a DVD-9 (Dual Layer 8.5GB) should hold 240 minutes at a normal = compression rate, so maybe just bump the compression down a little bit = to get the VOBs to fit within around 8GB ? >=20 > You would only have to worry about read issues with archaic DVD = players .. and when I say that, I mean, as far as I know, most movies = that have been released on DVD since 1999 or 2000 are Dual Layer -R. >=20 > Just make sure you use -R.. not +R.. or any form of R/W.. for some = reason the + discs tend not to work in about half of the players out = there.. especially the cheaper ones. and they seem to be more finicky = about burning properly.. at least in my experiences.. >=20 >=20 >=20 > ///Greg Balint > //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer > /321.514.4839 > delRAZOR.com/=20 > On 7/30/2012 3:38 AM, Jonathan Penzner wrote: >> Good day to everyone. >>=20 >> A client wants to jam around 250 minutes of video into a standard = DVD. Is that even possible or will the result just look like such crap = that it becomes pointless? It's a combination of of footage, graphics = and audio =96 VO over a bed, in most cases. Just wondering what the = accepted wisdom is here. Perhaps a dual layered DVD is the answer. But = will that play in standard players? >>=20 >> Thanks in advance. >>=20 >>=20 >> Jonathan >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> JONATHAN PENZNER >> SUNDANCE/REALTIME >> VIDEO EDITING =95 MOTION GRAPHICS =95 DESIGN >>=20 >> | STUDIO 626 345-0285 | >> | CELL 818 321-2890 | >>=20 >> SUREAL@CHARTER.NET >>=20 >=20 JONATHAN PENZNER SUNDANCE/REALTIME VIDEO EDITING =95 MOTION GRAPHICS =95 DESIGN | STUDIO 626 345-0285 | | CELL 818 321-2890 | SUREAL@CHARTER.NET --Apple-Mail-8-256304785 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252
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My wife had to take a driver's course after getting a speeding ticket to lower her fines.  They = allow you to rent a DVD course from Blockbuster or the like, and watch it at home and take a test on the content online..

The course was 8 hours, and it was all on 1 DVD..  it was 4:3 = SD computer animated stuff, with text screen graphics and character animation and stuff.. I was quite surprised while watching it, how clean the footage was.. and we were watching it on our 130" front projection screen TV.. 

Once i checked the disc, I realized why it looked fine and held so much data.  The disc was dual-sided dual-layered, which can = hold up to 17.4GB of data..

a DVD-9 (Dual Layer 8.5GB) should hold 240 minutes at a normal compression rate, so maybe just bump the compression down a little bit to get the VOBs to fit within around 8GB ?

You would only have to worry about read issues with archaic DVD players .. and when I say that, I mean, as far as I know, most movies that have been  released on DVD since 1999 or = 2000  are Dual Layer -R.

Just make sure you use -R.. not +R.. or any form of = R/W..   for some reason the + discs tend not to work in about half of the players out there.. especially the cheaper ones. and they seem to be more finicky about burning properly.. at least in my experiences..



///Greg Balint
//Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
/321.514.4839
delRAZOR.com/
On 7/30/2012 3:38 AM, Jonathan Penzner wrote:
Good day to everyone.

A client wants to jam around 250 minutes of video into a standard DVD. Is that even possible or will the result just look like such crap that it becomes pointless? It's a combination of of footage, graphics and audio =96 VO over a bed, in most cases. Just wondering what the accepted wisdom is here. Perhaps a dual layered DVD is the answer. But will that play in standard players?

Thanks in advance.


Jonathan



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