Return-Path: Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.194] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4791679 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:22:06 +0200 Received: from [10.1.1.22] (71-13-195-18.static.eucl.wi.charter.com [71.13.195.18]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MZl3O-1TE0pE3914-00LAFo; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:26:16 -0400 From: Steve Oakley Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_0EA630F5-45B1-45A5-9A26-4E1A58A343CB" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) Subject: Re: [AE] DVD Question Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:26:17 -0500 References: To: "After Effects Mail List" In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:zcwOOJpdnkk+DUbHDO0bUs6LVLwWSpSkmivVhKRLOQh HZ6rjq9d+pOjUdHWKUn0yhgxZZbioSkGTgNeyVNdGEQqShzDdr ss4S3EQj2PeUC4zVsrv4Y/KHFn92mywQNSw7k6OR+Gl2BjMpDl cBWp9eqiDC6F7hEjGjGottzx3cTXJTBXg6EZu21JwcpJJ5DYZU ly7l5xuGYtE61Z0Hm7JfLgfHSIM8ltRzY7F/DWNHU3K0Z7g/9X YEEB09JZu4/lGoJeA5Y/x4xpu/REMBtV2h01v6gJ6f7+Wc3b3E bYFTg7hXHsIpynnwaONjQqur2GrHEmeRjKE4fWcn+R4IM+9uFU 7GJ4EdHs2w4raiA4qta8yUswdbFt47EaTrwxm9dwk8v1Nteus5 eukYwJKtYQuYw== --Apple-Mail=_0EA630F5-45B1-45A5-9A26-4E1A58A343CB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 stamped =3D commercially duplicated not DVD-R media haven't messed with cinemacraft but hear its good and at least it was = stupid expensive. if they have an encoder now that plugs into QT that = compressor can use, its worth a shot. apple's encoder is no prize winner = when you need to squeeze the bits. S On Jul 30, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Jonathan Penzner = wrote: > Can you explain what a stamped disk is or give me a resource to look = up, Steve? >=20 > And are you familiar with the plug-in Andrius mentions =96 the = Cinemacraft CCE-MP? Other than hardware encoders, would this plug and = Adobe compressor rank highest? >=20 > Many thanks, >=20 >=20 > Jonathan >=20 >=20 > On Jul 30, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Steve Oakley wrote: >=20 >> well the apple Mpeg2 codec won't do the the job unless its pretty = much mostly stills. adobe's mpeg2 compressor should do better, as well = as some others. it really depends on the motion and content as to what = you'll get. a 10 minute long test of actual program should give you a = good idea of if it will work... and for compatibility stamped discs are = the way to go. it never fails that if I have a problem, its always a = sony DVD player... >>=20 >> S >>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Andrius Simutis wrote: >>>=20 >>>> For 250 minutes on a DVD9 your bit rate would be 4.1mbps for the = video assuming you're using .ac3 for the audio.=20 >>>> That's pretty low for compressor even running VBR with a wide = range, so you might want to run some test clips to make sure that what = you're getting looks decent enough for the client. =20 >>>> If you want to get the most out of Compressor (and you're doing = this often enough to justify spending $800) I'd recommend the = Cinemacraft CCE-MP plug in. It does a really nice job at the lower bit = rates where Compressor often falls down.=20 >>>> -Andrius Simutis >>>>=20 >>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Michael Hazarian wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> Yea, 250 minutes should be doable with mpeg2, particularly if = there is a good amount of synthetic footage. I was just providing a bit = of an aside. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Mike Hazarian >>=20 >>=20 >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >=20 >=20 > JONATHAN PENZNER > SUNDANCE/REALTIME > VIDEO EDITING =95 MOTION GRAPHICS =95 DESIGN >=20 > | STUDIO 626 345-0285 | > | CELL 818 321-2890 | >=20 > SUREAL@CHARTER.NET >=20 --Apple-Mail=_0EA630F5-45B1-45A5-9A26-4E1A58A343CB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 sureal@charter.net> = wrote:
Can you explain = what a stamped disk is or give me a resource to look up, = Steve?

And are you familiar with the plug-in = Andrius mentions =96 the Cinemacraft CCE-MP? Other than hardware = encoders, would this plug and Adobe compressor rank = highest?

Many = thanks,


Jonathan


On Jul 30, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Steve Oakley = wrote:

well the apple Mpeg2 codec won't do the the job unless its = pretty much mostly stills. adobe's mpeg2 compressor should do better, as = well as some others. it really depends on the motion and content as to = what you'll get. a 10 minute long test of actual program should give you = a good idea of if it will work... and for compatibility stamped discs = are the way to go. it never fails that if I have a problem, its always a = sony DVD player...

S


On Jul 30, = 2012, at 12:55 PM, Andrius Simutis wrote:

For 250 minutes on a DVD9 your bit rate would be 4.1mbps = for the video assuming you're using .ac3 for the audio. =
That's pretty low for compressor even running VBR with a = wide range, so you might want to run some test clips to make sure that = what you're getting looks decent enough for the client. =  
If you want to get the most out of Compressor (and you're = doing this often enough to justify spending $800) I'd recommend the = Cinemacraft CCE-MP plug in. It does a really nice job at the lower bit = rates where Compressor often falls down. =
-Andrius Simutis

On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:42 AM, = Michael Hazarian wrote:

Yea, = 250 minutes should be doable with mpeg2, particularly if there is a good = amount of synthetic footage. I was just providing a bit of an = aside.

Mike = Hazarian


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