Return-Path: Received: from gateway08.websitewelcome.com ([69.56.212.17] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4791711 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:58:12 +0200 Received: by gateway08.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 5007) id EDF6CD54F0C74; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:02:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gator1184.hostgator.com (gator1184.hostgator.com [174.121.151.98]) by gateway08.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0BABD54F0C2B for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:02:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [24.167.166.243] (port=55615 helo=Neptune) by gator1184.hostgator.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1Svx6b-00011a-SY for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:02:22 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Stephen van Vuuren" To: "'After Effects Mail List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [AE] DVD Question Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:02:23 -0400 Organization: SV2 Studios Message-ID: <00fe01cd6e96$9dc8ba60$d95a2f20$@sv2studios.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00FF_01CD6E75.16B8EF20" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 thread-index: AQGtzCyeh7Od4IQjFVW07/n75xrJFJeBlKTQ Content-Language: en-us X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator1184.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - sv2studios.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: (Neptune) [24.167.166.243]:55615 X-Source-Auth: stephen@sv2studios.com X-Email-Count: 4 X-Source-Cap: c3RlcGhlbnY7c3RlcGhlbnY7Z2F0b3IxMTg0Lmhvc3RnYXRvci5jb20= This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00FF_01CD6E75.16B8EF20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stamped/replicated is the way to go but also note with good media and book-type I've never had a single disk not play - well over a thousand burns. stephen van vuuren 336.202.4777 http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ http://www.sv2dcp.com/ http://www.sv2studios.com/ A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later. -Stanley Kubrick From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Steve Oakley Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 4:26 PM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] DVD Question stamped = commercially duplicated not DVD-R media haven't messed with cinemacraft but hear its good and at least it was stupid expensive. if they have an encoder now that plugs into QT that compressor can use, its worth a shot. apple's encoder is no prize winner when you need to squeeze the bits. S On Jul 30, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Jonathan Penzner wrote: Can you explain what a stamped disk is or give me a resource to look up, Steve? And are you familiar with the plug-in Andrius mentions - the Cinemacraft CCE-MP? Other than hardware encoders, would this plug and Adobe compressor rank highest? Many thanks, Jonathan On Jul 30, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Steve Oakley wrote: well the apple Mpeg2 codec won't do the the job unless its pretty much mostly stills. adobe's mpeg2 compressor should do better, as well as some others. it really depends on the motion and content as to what you'll get. a 10 minute long test of actual program should give you a good idea of if it will work... and for compatibility stamped discs are the way to go. it never fails that if I have a problem, its always a sony DVD player... S On Jul 30, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Andrius Simutis wrote: For 250 minutes on a DVD9 your bit rate would be 4.1mbps for the video assuming you're using .ac3 for the audio. That's pretty low for compressor even running VBR with a wide range, so you might want to run some test clips to make sure that what you're getting looks decent enough for the client. If you want to get the most out of Compressor (and you're doing this often enough to justify spending $800) I'd recommend the Cinemacraft CCE-MP plug in. It does a really nice job at the lower bit rates where Compressor often falls down. -Andrius Simutis On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Michael Hazarian wrote: Yea, 250 minutes should be doable with mpeg2, particularly if there is a good amount of synthetic footage. I was just providing a bit of an aside. Mike Hazarian +---End of message---+ To unsubscribe send any message to JONATHAN PENZNER SUNDANCE/REALTIME VIDEO EDITING . MOTION GRAPHICS . DESIGN | STUDIO 626 345-0285 | | CELL 818 321-2890 | SUREAL@CHARTER.NET ------=_NextPart_000_00FF_01CD6E75.16B8EF20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Stamped/replicated is the way to go but also note with good media and = book-type I’ve never had a single disk not play – well over = a thousand burns.

 

stephen van vuuren

336.202.4777

 

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A film is – or should be – more like music than like = fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, = what’s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes = later.

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From:= = After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of = Steve Oakley
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 4:26 = PM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] DVD = Question

 

stamped =3D = commercially duplicated not DVD-R media

 

haven't messed with cinemacraft but hear its good and = at least it was stupid expensive. if they have an encoder now that plugs = into QT that compressor can use, its worth a shot. apple's encoder is no = prize winner when you need to squeeze the = bits.

 

S

 

On = Jul 30, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Jonathan Penzner <sureal@charter.net> = wrote:



Can you explain what a stamped disk is or give me a = resource to look up, Steve?

 

And are you familiar with the plug-in Andrius mentions = – the Cinemacraft CCE-MP? Other than hardware encoders, would this = plug and Adobe compressor rank highest?

 

Many thanks,

 

 

Jonathan

 

 

On = Jul 30, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Steve Oakley wrote:



well the = apple Mpeg2 codec won't do the the job unless its pretty much mostly = stills. adobe's mpeg2 compressor should do better, as well as some = others. it really depends on the motion and content as to what you'll = get. a 10 minute long test of actual program should give you a good idea = of if it will work... and for compatibility stamped discs are the way to = go. it never fails that if I have a problem, its always a sony DVD = player...

S


 

On = Jul 30, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Andrius Simutis = wrote:

 

For = 250 minutes on a DVD9 your bit rate would be 4.1mbps for the video = assuming you're using .ac3 for the audio. =

That's pretty low for compressor even running VBR with = a wide range, so you might want to run some test clips to make sure that = what you're getting looks decent enough for the client. =  

If = you want to get the most out of Compressor (and you're doing this often = enough to justify spending $800) I'd recommend the Cinemacraft CCE-MP = plug in. It does a really nice job at the lower bit rates where = Compressor often falls down. =

-Andrius = Simutis

 

On = Jul 30, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Michael Hazarian = wrote:

 

Yea, = 250 minutes should be doable with mpeg2, particularly if there is a good = amount of synthetic footage. I was just providing a bit of an = aside.

 

Mike = Hazarian



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