Return-Path: Received: from mta11.charter.net ([216.33.127.80] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4791720 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:01:02 +0200 Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120730210513.LDOK10966.mta11.charter.net@imp09> for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:05:13 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.14] ([71.94.133.66]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id gl5B1j00E1S6qBK05l5Bn2; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:05:13 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=de4lG9b5LBLbdPP1mBfs3/eRZB7j2kpYfCvmEe8raAk= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=Vx6aIzdhH7H4BIXK4xUDUQ==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=YnoFYcHZU7j1lvKkgAQA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=RFaxJ1YKWH0A:10 a=p3b_eOXHgIUA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=vTU_FAMFzTvJ0CN_:21 a=RtnFkqhnRXefYBhs:21 a=JmgCCKm0IOgfIHjqdmsA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=Vx6aIzdhH7H4BIXK4xUDUQ==:117 From: Jonathan Penzner Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-302891358 Subject: Re: [AE] DVD Question Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:05:11 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) --Apple-Mail-1-302891358 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Thanks. Steve, for the edu-ma-cation, to quote Dr. John. On Jul 30, 2012, at 1:26 PM, Steve Oakley wrote: > stamped =3D commercially duplicated not DVD-R media >=20 > haven't messed with cinemacraft but hear its good and at least it was = stupid expensive. if they have an encoder now that plugs into QT that = compressor can use, its worth a shot. apple's encoder is no prize winner = when you need to squeeze the bits. >=20 > S >=20 > On Jul 30, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Jonathan Penzner = wrote: >=20 >> Can you explain what a stamped disk is or give me a resource to look = up, Steve? >>=20 >> And are you familiar with the plug-in Andrius mentions =96 the = Cinemacraft CCE-MP? Other than hardware encoders, would this plug and = Adobe compressor rank highest? >>=20 >> Many thanks, >>=20 >>=20 >> Jonathan >>=20 >>=20 >> On Jul 30, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Steve Oakley wrote: >>=20 >>> well the apple Mpeg2 codec won't do the the job unless its pretty = much mostly stills. adobe's mpeg2 compressor should do better, as well = as some others. it really depends on the motion and content as to what = you'll get. a 10 minute long test of actual program should give you a = good idea of if it will work... and for compatibility stamped discs are = the way to go. it never fails that if I have a problem, its always a = sony DVD player... >>>=20 >>> S >>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Andrius Simutis wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> For 250 minutes on a DVD9 your bit rate would be 4.1mbps for the = video assuming you're using .ac3 for the audio.=20 >>>>> That's pretty low for compressor even running VBR with a wide = range, so you might want to run some test clips to make sure that what = you're getting looks decent enough for the client. =20 >>>>> If you want to get the most out of Compressor (and you're doing = this often enough to justify spending $800) I'd recommend the = Cinemacraft CCE-MP plug in. It does a really nice job at the lower bit = rates where Compressor often falls down.=20 >>>>> -Andrius Simutis >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Michael Hazarian wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> Yea, 250 minutes should be doable with mpeg2, particularly if = there is a good amount of synthetic footage. I was just providing a bit = of an aside. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Mike Hazarian >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>=20 >>=20 >> JONATHAN PENZNER >> SUNDANCE/REALTIME >> VIDEO EDITING =95 MOTION GRAPHICS =95 DESIGN >>=20 >> | STUDIO 626 345-0285 | >> | CELL 818 321-2890 | >>=20 >> SUREAL@CHARTER.NET >>=20 >=20 JONATHAN PENZNER SUNDANCE/REALTIME VIDEO EDITING =95 MOTION GRAPHICS =95 DESIGN | STUDIO 626 345-0285 | | CELL 818 321-2890 | SUREAL@CHARTER.NET --Apple-Mail-1-302891358 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252
sureal@charter.net> = wrote:

Can you explain = what a stamped disk is or give me a resource to look up, = Steve?

And are you familiar with the plug-in = Andrius mentions =96 the Cinemacraft CCE-MP? Other than hardware = encoders, would this plug and Adobe compressor rank = highest?

Many = thanks,


Jonathan


On Jul 30, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Steve Oakley = wrote:

well the apple Mpeg2 codec won't do the the job unless its = pretty much mostly stills. adobe's mpeg2 compressor should do better, as = well as some others. it really depends on the motion and content as to = what you'll get. a 10 minute long test of actual program should give you = a good idea of if it will work... and for compatibility stamped discs = are the way to go. it never fails that if I have a problem, its always a = sony DVD player...

S


On Jul 30, = 2012, at 12:55 PM, Andrius Simutis wrote:

For 250 minutes on a DVD9 your bit rate would be 4.1mbps = for the video assuming you're using .ac3 for the audio. =
That's pretty low for compressor even running VBR with a = wide range, so you might want to run some test clips to make sure that = what you're getting looks decent enough for the client. =  
If you want to get the most out of Compressor (and you're = doing this often enough to justify spending $800) I'd recommend the = Cinemacraft CCE-MP plug in. It does a really nice job at the lower bit = rates where Compressor often falls down. =
-Andrius Simutis

On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:42 AM, = Michael Hazarian wrote:

Yea, = 250 minutes should be doable with mpeg2, particularly if there is a good = amount of synthetic footage. I was just providing a bit of an = aside.

Mike = Hazarian


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