Return-Path: Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com ([209.85.215.41] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4791914 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 03:26:10 +0200 Received: by lahi5 with SMTP id i5so3490753lah.28 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:30:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=UPXVqSIUDlWiyyRWdM1cHOQ85rA6GlB8jZnzy9rpamg=; b=OVJycCkDrGul8LAXJKAFjFg5frvAOxufEKgLyp7ymL9G/8wfcP0zxS/wZwUNVE8dff tGvp6oTYJhFuHtaMR/CG+VQwpzRE7PefR1z6Z+nMchJquE0mVZuKtI0myrgA89NLeP3u R5g7fGaPKwbAnL/KbqAsZs7VmxQaNDVFAHtSwrj9naov82RF4cN8zxB/KLHRz4qPk96m OZCtWQMN0s+sGA8YInNBse8RjEJVSqsj0V6ADZdPbnE36UVRlggmQuL3mjkR1vmAsrPm TQz15UR3XJlSdthtVgAGo7gAQRZN0DFXSzkNfKgl7AlpBfr8MC9pxklFQD/A2apV8f6p Vorw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.144.163 with SMTP id sn3mr5804048lab.37.1343698221571; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:30:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.130.70 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:30:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.130.70 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:30:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:30:21 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] DVD Question From: Teddy Gage To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f2343a52e9eaa04c6161fb1 --e89a8f2343a52e9eaa04c6161fb1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pretty sure he means stamped discs from a gold master from a large duplication house. Usually they require large minimum orders though. On Jul 30, 2012 4:23 PM, "Jonathan Penzner" wrote: > Can you explain what a stamped disk is or give me a resource to look up, > Steve? > > And are you familiar with the plug-in Andrius mentions =96 the Cinemacraf= t > CCE-MP? Other than hardware encoders, would this plug and Adobe compresso= r > rank highest? > > Many thanks, > > > Jonathan > > > On Jul 30, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Steve Oakley wrote: > > well the apple Mpeg2 codec won't do the the job unless its pretty much > mostly stills. adobe's mpeg2 compressor should do better, as well as some > others. it really depends on the motion and content as to what you'll get= . > a 10 minute long test of actual program should give you a good idea of if > it will work... and for compatibility stamped discs are the way to go. it > never fails that if I have a problem, its always a sony DVD player... > > S > > > On Jul 30, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Andrius Simutis wrote: > > > For 250 minutes on a DVD9 your bit rate would be 4.1mbps for the video > assuming you're using .ac3 for the audio. > > That's pretty low for compressor even running VBR with a wide range, so > you might want to run some test clips to make sure that what you're getti= ng > looks decent enough for the client. > > If you want to get the most out of Compressor (and you're doing this ofte= n > enough to justify spending $800) I'd recommend the Cinemacraft CCE-MP plu= g > in. It does a really nice job at the lower bit rates where Compressor oft= en > falls down. > > -Andrius Simutis > > > On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Michael Hazarian wrote: > > > Yea, 250 minutes should be doable with mpeg2, particularly if there is a > good amount of synthetic footage. I was just providing a bit of an aside. > > > Mike Hazarian > > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > > > > *JONATHAN PENZNER* > SUNDANCE/REALTIME > VIDEO EDITING =95 MOTION GRAPHICS =95 DESIGN > > | STUDIO 626 345-0285 | > | CELL 818 321-2890 | > > SUREAL@CHARTER.NET > > --e89a8f2343a52e9eaa04c6161fb1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Pretty sure he means stamped discs from a gold master from a large dupli= cation house. Usually they require large minimum orders though.

On Jul 30, 2012 4:23 PM, "Jonathan Penzner&= quot; <sureal@ch= arter.net> wrote:
Can you explain what a stamped dis= k is or give me a resource to look up, Steve?

And = are you familiar with the plug-in Andrius mentions =96 the Cinemacraft CCE-= MP? Other than hardware encoders, would this plug and Adobe compressor rank= highest?

Many thanks,


Jo= nathan


On Jul 30, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Steve= Oakley wrote:

well the apple Mpeg2= codec won't do the the job unless its pretty much mostly stills. adobe= 's mpeg2 compressor should do better, as well as some others. it really= depends on the motion and content as to what you'll get. a 10 minute l= ong test of actual program should give you a good idea of if it will work..= . and for compatibility stamped discs are the way to go. it never fails tha= t if I have a problem, its always a sony DVD player...

S


On Jul 30, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Andrius Simutis wrote:

For 250 minutes on a DVD9 your bit rate would be 4.1mbps for the video assu= ming you're using .ac3 for the audio.
That's pretty low for = compressor even running VBR with a wide range, so you might want to run som= e test clips to make sure that what you're getting looks decent enough = for the client. =A0
If you want to get the most out of Compressor (and you're doing this= often enough to justify spending $800) I'd recommend the Cinemacraft C= CE-MP plug in. It does a really nice job at the lower bit rates where Compr= essor often falls down.
-Andrius Simutis
=

On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Michael Hazarian wro= te:

Yea, 250 minutes should be doable with mpeg2, par= ticularly if there is a good amount of synthetic footage. I was just provid= ing a bit of an aside.

Mike Hazarian


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