Return-Path: Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com ([209.85.217.169] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4791926 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 03:34:56 +0200 Received: by lbjn8 with SMTP id n8so3559358lbj.28 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:39:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=KZaEc1aOjSIRSS28pz86t5zQWVTJR+R4IM6cfglogxo=; b=LtxD2q8nopzri8OBE8nUFUMQlilLJUjxKmhF4qcVHhGE8wBCIXQ9WPIcOTHIao9IAW yjHq0/JYEZ2IeIsD/17YW7h+hXfW50M3YvaWnqFF7zT2J7IxYwV5FOv8KlyTcb2HAvH+ VP4tMuFA/9T9c31snsb9wNJ3bU11ZVU2UQJt9Oslx1V849T7nhfAGsZwTgrPoJTAd+ZY ZP7VyZarKePdXMv9zxkjT/EdRyLJm686q+88JBjXBqZ5gDOYoWQQOCiMRjBGyubxVkIr 4QNfeNlSxF28krVSPAYsh/IU0gRe/YBlPrldAucP525fhCEM3BXNkbCGaKYXmJ9uoPZQ 2Gsg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.104.100 with SMTP id gd4mr6077866lbb.24.1343698748241; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:39:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.130.70 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:39:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.130.70 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:39:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:39:08 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] DVD Question From: Teddy Gage To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9d6829a92f5dd04c6163e93 --14dae9d6829a92f5dd04c6163e93 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lol a little late to the party. Just saw all the responses. Carry on. We used to submit the DLT tapes too, but I didn't know they even made those any more. What a pain. We also had a $100k state of the art hardware mpeg2 encoder. Also a pain. On Jul 30, 2012 9:30 PM, "Teddy Gage" wrote: > Pretty sure he means stamped discs from a gold master from a large > duplication house. Usually they require large minimum orders though. > On Jul 30, 2012 4:23 PM, "Jonathan Penzner" wrote: > >> Can you explain what a stamped disk is or give me a resource to look up, >> Steve? >> >> And are you familiar with the plug-in Andrius mentions =96 the Cinemacra= ft >> CCE-MP? Other than hardware encoders, would this plug and Adobe compress= or >> rank highest? >> >> Many thanks, >> >> >> Jonathan >> >> >> On Jul 30, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Steve Oakley wrote: >> >> well the apple Mpeg2 codec won't do the the job unless its pretty much >> mostly stills. adobe's mpeg2 compressor should do better, as well as som= e >> others. it really depends on the motion and content as to what you'll ge= t. >> a 10 minute long test of actual program should give you a good idea of i= f >> it will work... and for compatibility stamped discs are the way to go. i= t >> never fails that if I have a problem, its always a sony DVD player... >> >> S >> >> >> On Jul 30, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Andrius Simutis wrote: >> >> >> For 250 minutes on a DVD9 your bit rate would be 4.1mbps for the video >> assuming you're using .ac3 for the audio. >> >> That's pretty low for compressor even running VBR with a wide range, so >> you might want to run some test clips to make sure that what you're gett= ing >> looks decent enough for the client. >> >> If you want to get the most out of Compressor (and you're doing this >> often enough to justify spending $800) I'd recommend the Cinemacraft CCE= -MP >> plug in. It does a really nice job at the lower bit rates where Compress= or >> often falls down. >> >> -Andrius Simutis >> >> >> On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Michael Hazarian wrote: >> >> >> Yea, 250 minutes should be doable with mpeg2, particularly if there is a >> good amount of synthetic footage. I was just providing a bit of an aside= . >> >> >> Mike Hazarian >> >> >> >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >> >> >> >> *JONATHAN PENZNER* >> SUNDANCE/REALTIME >> VIDEO EDITING =95 MOTION GRAPHICS =95 DESIGN >> >> | STUDIO 626 345-0285 | >> | CELL 818 321-2890 | >> >> SUREAL@CHARTER.NET >> >> --14dae9d6829a92f5dd04c6163e93 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Lol a little late to the party. Just saw all the responses. Carry on. We= used to submit the DLT tapes too, but I didn't know they even made tho= se any more. What a pain. We also had a $100k state of the art hardware mpe= g2 encoder. Also a pain.

On Jul 30, 2012 9:30 PM, "Teddy Gage" = <teddygage@gmail.com> wrot= e:

Pretty sure he means stamped discs from a gold master from a large dupli= cation house. Usually they require large minimum orders though.

On Jul 30, 2012 4:23 PM, "Jonathan Penzner&= quot; <sureal@ch= arter.net> wrote:
Can you explain what a stamped dis= k is or give me a resource to look up, Steve?

And = are you familiar with the plug-in Andrius mentions =96 the Cinemacraft CCE-= MP? Other than hardware encoders, would this plug and Adobe compressor rank= highest?

Many thanks,


Jo= nathan


On Jul 30, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Steve= Oakley wrote:

well the apple Mpeg2= codec won't do the the job unless its pretty much mostly stills. adobe= 's mpeg2 compressor should do better, as well as some others. it really= depends on the motion and content as to what you'll get. a 10 minute l= ong test of actual program should give you a good idea of if it will work..= . and for compatibility stamped discs are the way to go. it never fails tha= t if I have a problem, its always a sony DVD player...

S


On Jul 30, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Andrius Simutis wrote:

For 250 minutes on a DVD9 your bit rate would be 4.1mbps for the video assu= ming you're using .ac3 for the audio.
That's pretty low for = compressor even running VBR with a wide range, so you might want to run som= e test clips to make sure that what you're getting looks decent enough = for the client. =A0
If you want to get the most out of Compressor (and you're doing this= often enough to justify spending $800) I'd recommend the Cinemacraft C= CE-MP plug in. It does a really nice job at the lower bit rates where Compr= essor often falls down.
-Andrius Simutis
=

On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Michael Hazarian wro= te:

Yea, 250 minutes should be doable with mpeg2, par= ticularly if there is a good amount of synthetic footage. I was just provid= ing a bit of an aside.

Mike Hazarian


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