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Subject: Re: [AE] disclaimers
From: Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com>
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:03:10 -0500
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I understand, Jack.  It's a dirty business.  But then, so is a lot of advertising, video marketing, televangelism, and so on.

I get into this discussion frequently about whether it's the right thing to do to turn down clients whose policies, politics or products one disagrees with.  But, I try to look at it this way, and as a facility owner, perhaps you'll agree:  

For those who work at a post house on staff and on salary, and with a family to support, how many of us can afford to take a stand and refuse to work for certain clients?  The result of that would be getting fired.  Who won that battle?

I do the best work I can for my clients.  And I've worked for some, mostly on staff somewhere, who I simply detest.  Companies like Monsanto, Lockheed, Halliburton, Dow, Exxon, and other "evildoers and environment rapers" don't have a problem finding people to market for them.  And very few post-house owners can afford to turn down bucket loads of money on principle.  The lilly-white, eco-friendly, socially-responsible corporations are few and far between.  Some even argue that to be so goes against the ultimate goal of corporatism, which is to maximize shareholder value.

We buy Chinese products that are the result of exploitative working conditions.  Working in a capitalist system is a mine field of ethical quandaries.

I often call myself a video whore, but like many expensive prostitutes, I do draw the line on certain things.


On Jul 31, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Jack Tunnicliffe wrote:

> No problem, Jim. I think politics (of any kind) is my low threshold for topics I dislike reading about. 
> 
> Jack Tunnicliffe
> Java Post Production
> www.javapost.ca
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> On Jul 31, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Jim Curtis wrote:
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>> What, no chastising for gloating about American music video award nominations, or musings about plug-in purchases?
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>> Please forgive my ugly-americanism, Jack.
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>> And congratulations to David, proud owners of new plug-ins, Slash ticket recipients, best 24" monitor shoppers, Illustrator victims, and any other OT posters I left out.
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>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Jack Tunnicliffe wrote:
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>>> Hmmmm, I wonder what the font size is for political ads in Denmark? I'll be sure to start a thread for the next time Canada has an election. I'm being sarcastic of course, but reminding people that this is an international list where many of us could care less about US political ads. 
>>> 
>>> I know the AE user list is a valuable resource with many brains to add to a discussion but I'd suggest an OT in the subject heading and then move the discussion off the list once contact has been initiated with helpful subscribers. I am on several user lists and sometimes these off topic posts add up to be a great deal of noise in the old in box in the course of a day.
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>>> Java Post Production
>>> www.javapost.ca
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