Return-Path: Received: from host6.canaca.com ([66.49.160.142] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4805550 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 06:08:57 +0200 Received: from static184-169-61-119.r.rev.accesscomm.ca ([184.169.61.119] helo=[10.0.1.8]) by host6.canaca.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SzK3V-0008Pj-Gj for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 00:09:05 -0400 Subject: Re: [AE] Scaling camera shake References: From: Jack Tunnicliffe Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-A8362D5B-1156-47EA-850C-77F17BA547ED X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 22:09:03 -0600 To: After Effects Mail List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host6.canaca.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - javapost.ca X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: --Apple-Mail-A8362D5B-1156-47EA-850C-77F17BA547ED Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes, I knew that but I often try to expand the discussion in both directions= . There are many tutorials for creating camera shake like this. http://www.p= remiumbeat.com/blog/how-to-create-realistic-camera-shake-with-after-effects/= I don't know if that one is any good but there are vimeo tutorials and there= is ae scripts. I like Sapphire S_Shake because I can save presets and also u= s other people's presets. It's becoming a really powerful tool in that way, f= ar beyond a damn fine filter set, so its a great investment for me. Jack Tunnicliffe Java Post Production On Aug 8, 2012, at 9:58 PM, jarret langmeire wrote: > Hey Jack, >=20 > It's not really a case of wanting to remove the shake, just wanting to twe= ak it. Sapphire sounds great but unfortunately I haven't got a lazy $1,700 := -( >=20 > Cheers >=20 > On 9 August 2012 13:33, Jack Tunnicliffe wrote: > For removing shake the built in warp stabilizer is nice because you can sc= ale and not completely remove shake. Lock and Load is a great plug in if you= don't have 5.5 or 6 with warp stabilizer. >=20 > I have to create camera shake all the time. I have a crime series that the= y always want to rock the camera more. I like Sapphire S_Shake. I've built a= few presets for a little shake, more shake, lots of shake. There are probab= ly other plug ins for doing this but this is my go to filter for such a thin= g. Lots of nice randomizing controls for x,y, rotation, motion blur, etc. >=20 > Jack Tunnicliffe > Java Post Production >=20 > On Aug 8, 2012, at 9:25 PM, jarret langmeire wrote: >=20 >> Hi all, >>=20 >> I've been attempting to solve this problem over a couple of projects now a= nd have always had to resort to a temporary patch. I've finally caved and am= going to see if the AE List can help. >>=20 >> I've filmed some tracking markers which I've tracked in AE and generated k= eyframes to apply to my camera in order to simulate a realistic camera shake= . That's all fine and works but what I'd like to do is to be able to scale t= hese values, probably via an expression control effect on a null or somethin= g like that - the reason I want to be able to scale is to a/. tone down or u= p the overall effect and b/. scale the effect over time so that shake increa= ses over time for example.=20 >>=20 >> The obvious (to me anyhow) approach would be to use an expression that di= vides the position value by 2 (for example) in order to reduce the amount of= shake. That certainly halves the overall range of the position but it also s= hifts the camera's position to a new location as opposed to leaving the came= ra at the specified location but to wiggle it within the range specified by t= he tracked motion. >>=20 >> Using parenting works but only if I don't scale the effect. I get the sen= se that Dan Ebberts' article here is related but unfortunately I've not been= able to make the leap. >>=20 >> Thanks for any kind of help on this. >> -- >>=20 >> Jarret >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > -- >=20 > Jarret >=20 --Apple-Mail-A8362D5B-1156-47EA-850C-77F17BA547ED Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Yes, I knew that but I oft= en try to expand the discussion in both directions. There are many tutorials= for creating camera shake like this. http://w= ww.premiumbeat.com/blog/how-to-create-realistic-camera-shake-with-after-effe= cts/

I don't know if that one is any good but t= here are vimeo tutorials and there is ae scripts. I like Sapphire S_Shake be= cause I can save presets and also us other people's presets. It's becoming a= really powerful tool in that way, far beyond a damn fine filter set, so its= a great investment for me.

Jack Tunnicliffe
Java Post= Production

On Aug 8, 2012, at 9:58 PM, jarret langmeire= <langmeire@gmail.com> wrot= e:

Hey Jack,

=
It's not really a case of wanting to remove the shake, just wanti= ng to tweak it. Sapphire sounds great but unfortunately I haven't got a lazy= $1,700 :-(

Cheers

On 9 August 2012 13:33, Jack Tunnicliffe <jack= @javapost.ca> wrote:
For removing shake the built in warp stabilize= r is nice because you can scale and not completely remove shake. Lock and Lo= ad is a great plug in if you don't have 5.5 or 6 with warp stabilizer.
=

I have to create camera shake all the time. I have a cri= me series that they always want to rock the camera more. I like Sapphire S_S= hake. I've built a few presets for a little shake, more shake, lots of shake= . There are probably other plug ins for doing this but this is my go to filt= er for such a thing. Lots of nice randomizing controls for x,y, rotation, mo= tion blur, etc.

Jack Tunnicliffe
Java Post Production
=

On Aug 8, 2012, at 9:25 PM, jarret lan= gmeire <langmeir= e@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

I've been attempting to solve this problem over a couple of projects now a= nd have always had to resort to a temporary patch. I've finally caved and am= going to see if the AE List can help.

I've filmed some tracking markers which I've tracked in A= E and generated keyframes to apply to my camera in order to simulate a reali= stic camera shake. That's all fine and works but what I'd like to do is to b= e able to scale these values, probably via an expression control effect on a= null or something like that - the reason I want to be able to scale is to a= /. tone down or up the overall effect and b/. scale the effect over time so t= hat shake increases over time for example. 

The obvious (to me anyhow) approach would be to use an e= xpression that divides the position value by 2 (for example) in order to red= uce the amount of shake. That certainly halves the overall range of the posi= tion but it also shifts the camera's position to a new location as opposed t= o leaving the camera at the specified location but to wiggle it within the r= ange specified by the tracked motion.

Using parenting works but only if I don't scale the effe= ct. I get the sense that Dan Ebberts' article here i= s related but unfortunately I've not been able to make the leap.

Thanks for any kind of help on this.
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Jarret




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Jarret

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