Return-Path: Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com ([209.85.215.41] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4805591 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 07:57:58 +0200 Received: by lahd3 with SMTP id d3so41888lah.28 for ; Wed, 08 Aug 2012 22:58:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=H4xU2HvciGleDJ6BfkLoiVnzxKH9n5dE96UUK9O+K0E=; b=fwe0ytp0w1MmS2jECR8oBjfTsWhzS7GwvRjC8dl7lS5Jz9rI+TAjnQi4eOVDuK9z37 O1ZHexe2Fa4avF7GMWvEmrQiljPbOfOzMWtNDHV3hHSxzRPkfk22JE68WRPY5Ie2ATxL TArEdbSdXFnUC+3UghXrNrsU11ubUzMFOEWKWA9TjGiQMUsPlZ0o4nr3ZEIsdNVI06O5 SdFa5R4rJ8qs7Y1VWTM3GomquSWR0YxOBdzKKjPNu6QA0bkOowbFsXqmeSazdpv0VTau FX1lVuOrUCQeCWoDlSJmpNYvf48X1os36Pju6+UKNTru9M08zZ7+SIMlK2Y7S/tOndHg 1RpA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.27.71 with SMTP id r7mr231794lbg.73.1344491887907; Wed, 08 Aug 2012 22:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.89.43 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 22:58:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 15:58:07 +1000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Scaling camera shake From: jarret langmeire To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec55555e061d29104c6cee963 --bcaec55555e061d29104c6cee963 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Jack, Thanks for that link - that's pretty much the approach that I've been using. Sapphire really does look fantastic but alas, I just can't justify that amount. I just need to try and figure out the expression for this - perhaps I'll revisit Dan's site. Cheers On 9 August 2012 14:09, Jack Tunnicliffe wrote: > Yes, I knew that but I often try to expand the discussion in both > directions. There are many tutorials for creating camera shake like this. > http://www.premiumbeat.com/blog/how-to-create-realistic-camera-shake-with-after-effects/ > > I don't know if that one is any good but there are vimeo tutorials and > there is ae scripts. I like Sapphire S_Shake because I can save presets and > also us other people's presets. It's becoming a really powerful tool in > that way, far beyond a damn fine filter set, so its a great investment for > me. > > > Jack Tunnicliffe > Java Post Production > > On Aug 8, 2012, at 9:58 PM, jarret langmeire wrote: > > Hey Jack, > > It's not really a case of wanting to remove the shake, just wanting to > tweak it. Sapphire sounds great but unfortunately I haven't got a lazy > $1,700 :-( > > Cheers > > On 9 August 2012 13:33, Jack Tunnicliffe wrote: > >> For removing shake the built in warp stabilizer is nice because you can >> scale and not completely remove shake. Lock and Load is a great plug in if >> you don't have 5.5 or 6 with warp stabilizer. >> >> I have to create camera shake all the time. I have a crime series that >> they always want to rock the camera more. I like Sapphire S_Shake. I've >> built a few presets for a little shake, more shake, lots of shake. There >> are probably other plug ins for doing this but this is my go to filter for >> such a thing. Lots of nice randomizing controls for x,y, rotation, motion >> blur, etc. >> >> Jack Tunnicliffe >> Java Post Production >> >> On Aug 8, 2012, at 9:25 PM, jarret langmeire wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I've been attempting to solve this problem over a couple of projects now >> and have always had to resort to a temporary patch. I've finally caved and >> am going to see if the AE List can help. >> >> I've filmed some tracking markers which I've tracked in AE and generated >> keyframes to apply to my camera in order to simulate a realistic camera >> shake. That's all fine and works but what I'd like to do is to be able to >> scale these values, probably via an expression control effect on a null or >> something like that - the reason I want to be able to scale is to a/. tone >> down or up the overall effect and b/. scale the effect over time so that >> shake increases over time for example. >> >> The obvious (to me anyhow) approach would be to use an expression that >> divides the position value by 2 (for example) in order to reduce the amount >> of shake. That certainly halves the overall range of the position but it >> also shifts the camera's position to a new location as opposed to leaving >> the camera at the specified location but to wiggle it within the range >> specified by the tracked motion. >> >> Using parenting works but only if I don't scale the effect. I get the >> sense that Dan Ebberts' article here is >> related but unfortunately I've not been able to make the leap. >> >> Thanks for any kind of help on this. >> -- >> >> Jarret >> >> > > > -- > -- > > Jarret > > -- -- Jarret --bcaec55555e061d29104c6cee963 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jack,

Thanks for that link - that's pretty much t= he approach that I've been using.

Sapphire rea= lly does look fantastic but alas, I just can't justify that amount. I j= ust need to try and figure out the expression for this - perhaps I'll r= evisit Dan's site.

Cheers

On 9 August 20= 12 14:09, Jack Tunnicliffe <jack@javapost.ca> wrote:
Yes, I knew that but I often try to expand th= e discussion in both directions. There are many tutorials for creating came= ra shake like this.=A0http://ww= w.premiumbeat.com/blog/how-to-create-realistic-camera-shake-with-after-effe= cts/

I don't know if that one is any good but there are = vimeo tutorials and there is ae scripts. I like Sapphire S_Shake because I = can save presets and also us other people's presets. It's becoming = a really powerful tool in that way, far beyond a damn fine filter set, so i= ts a great investment for me.


Jack Tunnicliffe
Java Post Production

On Aug 8, 2012, at 9:58 PM, jarret langm= eire <langmeire= @gmail.com> wrote:

Hey Jack,

It's not really a case of wanting to remove the shake, just wanti= ng to tweak it. Sapphire sounds great but unfortunately I haven't got a= lazy $1,700 :-(

Cheers

On 9 August 2012 13:33, Jack Tunnicliffe <ja= ck@javapost.ca> wrote:
For removing shake the built in warp stabiliz= er is nice because you can scale and not completely remove shake. Lock and = Load is a great plug in if you don't have 5.5 or 6 with warp stabilizer= .

I have to create camera shake all the time. I have a cr= ime series that they always want to rock the camera more. I like Sapphire S= _Shake. I've built a few presets for a little shake, more shake, lots o= f shake. There are probably other plug ins for doing this but this is my go= to filter for such a thing. Lots of nice randomizing controls for x,y, rot= ation, motion blur, etc.

Jack Tunnicliffe
Java Post Production

On Aug 8, 2012, at 9:25 PM, jarret langmeire <= langmeire@gmail.co= m> wrote:

Hi all,

<= div>I've been attempting to solve this problem over a couple of project= s now and have always had to resort to a temporary patch. I've finally = caved and am going to see if the AE List can help.

I've filmed some tracking markers which I've tr= acked in AE and generated keyframes to apply to my camera in order to simul= ate a realistic camera shake. That's all fine and works but what I'= d like to do is to be able to scale these values, probably via an expressio= n control effect on a null or something like that - the reason I want to be= able to scale is to a/. tone down or up the overall effect and b/. scale t= he effect over time so that shake increases over time for example.=A0

The obvious (to me anyhow) approach would be to use an = expression that divides the position value by 2 (for example) in order to r= educe the amount of shake. That certainly halves the overall range of the p= osition but it also shifts the camera's position to a new location as o= pposed to leaving the camera at the specified location but to wiggle it wit= hin the range specified by the tracked motion.

Using parenting works but only if I don't scale the= effect. I get the sense that Dan Ebberts' article=A0here=A0is related but unfortunately I've not been able to make the leap.

Thanks for any kind of help on this.
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