Return-Path: Received: from mail-ob0-f169.google.com ([209.85.214.169] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4806251 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:57:41 +0200 Received: by obhx4 with SMTP id x4so1200830obh.28 for ; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 13:57:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=cOhJabFZxTbvmiQHAZvtD0F2TB9bEhwlFWVOToZ6fL4=; b=l9KTjOwfEe0b4VJo6GDcVWUDi136bIKkaD0gMk6xdSul7hc3IvZlF5qVDe2h4b4tKE H5fXHyYjXbGKTjFlRSU5Ymslvg6OaBdiNDGKThXrYcjvPVIuZBmaygI8Rf6rsC+NgWm5 NCgGPRj29/vahTypCIJaQLbv2I/EulF4dj6ayMmuYqJHra48ki+8DbGd7oMfQJvdWUza 2H+Q0bDPN9ceruXhnsnIFxJmIFLbv9gOKqghNvyGnkpwW2W5fi3Xg1pUV2ywx1jshny4 GBfSy7z0x3EkTbJWXqThmN8BcGAwPIIO1yoA8FWA3Qt+KYqdqoHGHbgNPMW2jtDqM6Ae yLEA== Received: by 10.60.24.35 with SMTP id r3mr833977oef.67.1344545872069; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 13:57:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.4.72 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 13:57:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Byron Nash Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 16:57:31 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Disappearing Layers CS6 To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb2067e16c32504c6db7b7d --e89a8fb2067e16c32504c6db7b7d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Nope, no collapse going on. Turning off Time Remap seems to pretty much eliminate the issue. We have had to prerender a lot. This seems like a serious issue. I submitted a bug report. On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Chris Zwar wrote: > Do you have collapse transformations turned on? > I have had a similar issue in CS5 when collapse transformations was turned > on - ended up pre-rendering and importing. > > -Chris > > On 09/08/2012, at 4:14 AM, Byron Nash wrote: > > It seems to be related to Time Remap. Any time you turn it on, layers get > unreliable. > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Byron Nash wrote: > >> It's happening in different projects on differing machines. I guess I'll >> move this over to the bugs email. >> >> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Jim Curtis wrote: >> >>> Thanks. In that case, I don't have the same issue. I had a similar >>> sounding one with Mountain Lion and the persistent disk cache in Ae, where >>> changes made in a precomp weren't showing up in the main comp. The app was >>> likely showing me the results of a previous cache operation instead of the >>> current one. Erasing the disk cache, or turning it off was a workaround, >>> but I just switched back to Lion instead. >>> >>> Pretty curious that you're getting this on two different operating >>> systems. That leads me to suspect corruption in your source file (or maybe >>> even your project). Can you substitute a different PSD sequence (or try >>> the same thing in a new project)? That might tell you something. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Aug 8, 2012, at 8:32 AM, Byron Nash wrote: >>> >>> It's doing it on Snow Leopard and Windows 7. We tried purging the disk >>> cache as well as the memory. >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Jim Curtis wrote: >>> >>>> Maybe. Are you on Mountain Lion? What are you purging? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Aug 8, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Byron Nash wrote: >>>> >>>> > We keep having an issue with layers inside precomps disappearing. The >>>> behavior is inconsistent and not reproduce-able every time. Our setup is a >>>> sequence of photoshop layers in a precomp. In the main comp we have >>>> loopOut("cycle") on the Time Remap keyframes. With that setup, layers >>>> inside the precomp randomly disappear. It's not always the same layer in >>>> the precomp. Restarting and purging don't always fix it. >>>> > >>>> > Anyone had this issue? >>>> >>>> >>>> +---End of message---+ >>>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > --e89a8fb2067e16c32504c6db7b7d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nope, no collapse going on. Turning off Time Remap seems to pretty much eli= minate the issue. We have had to prerender a lot. This seems like a serious= issue. I submitted a bug report.=A0


On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Chris Zwar <chris@chriszwar.com><= /span> wrote:
Do you have collapse transformations tu= rned on?
I have had a similar issue in CS5 when collapse transformation= s was turned on - ended up pre-rendering and importing.

-Chris

On 09/08/2012, at= 4:14 AM, Byron Nash wrote:

It seems to = be related to Time Remap. Any time you turn it on, layers get unreliable.= =A0

On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Byron Nash = <byronnash@gmail.com> wrote:
It's happening in different pr= ojects on differing machines. I guess I'll move this over to the bugs e= mail.=A0

On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Jim Curtis <= span dir=3D"ltr"><j= pcurtis@me.com> wrote:
Thanks. = =A0In that case, I don't have the same issue. =A0I had a similar soundi= ng one with Mountain Lion and the persistent disk cache in Ae, where change= s made in a precomp weren't showing up in the main comp. =A0The app was= likely showing me the results of a previous cache operation instead of the= current one. =A0Erasing the disk cache, or turning it off was a workaround= , but I just switched back to Lion instead.

Pretty curious that you're getting this on two different= operating systems. =A0That leads me to suspect corruption in your source f= ile (or maybe even your project). =A0Can you substitute a different PSD seq= uence (or try the same thing in a new project)? =A0That might tell you some= thing.



On Aug 8, 2= 012, at 8:32 AM, Byron Nash wrote:

It= 9;s doing it on Snow Leopard and Windows 7. We tried purging the disk cache= as well as the memory.=A0

On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Jim Curtis <= span dir=3D"ltr"><j= pcurtis@me.com> wrote:
Maybe. =A0Are you on Mountain Lion? =A0What = are you purging?


On Aug 8, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Byron Nash wrote:

> We keep having an issue with layers inside precomps disappearing. The = behavior is inconsistent and not reproduce-able every time. Our setup is a = sequence of photoshop layers in a precomp. In the main comp we have loopOut= ("cycle") on the Time Remap keyframes. With that setup, layers in= side the precomp randomly disappear. It's not always the same layer in = the precomp. Restarting and purging don't always fix it.
>
> Anyone had this issue?


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