Return-Path: Received: from exprod6og105.obsmtp.com ([64.18.1.189] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4812760 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 01:28:15 +0200 Received: from outbound-smtp-1.corp.adobe.com ([192.150.11.134]) by exprod6ob105.postini.com ([64.18.5.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUCrfIazaln3h5LgckPyGsU8QUhhW7tRH@postini.com; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:28:36 PDT Received: from inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com ([153.32.1.51]) by outbound-smtp-1.corp.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id q7ENQ4k0022603; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nacas01.corp.adobe.com (nacas01.corp.adobe.com [10.8.189.99]) by inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id q7ENRsvq006064; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nambx09.corp.adobe.com ([10.8.189.47]) by nacas01.corp.adobe.com ([10.8.189.99]) with mapi; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:28:12 -0700 From: Todd Kopriva To: After Effects Mail List , "stephen@sv2studios.com" Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:25:48 -0700 Subject: RE: [AE] Hmm I think I might rather get Mir than Element. Thread-Topic: [AE] Hmm I think I might rather get Mir than Element. Thread-Index: Ac16c2WkPbiFbBogS9CeAz/F9Ju0gQAAL0kk Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 When I look at Element 3D, I don't think of it in comparison to something l= ike Cinema 4D; I think of it in comparison to other particle plug-ins. IMNS= HO, as a 3D particle plug-in, it is fan-freaking-tastic. ________________________________________ From: After Effects Mail List [AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Stephe= n van Vuuren [stephen@sv2studios.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 4:20 PM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] Hmm I think I might rather get Mir than Element. > The Element 3d demo reel is impressive for something that is rendered out= of AE but not that impressive as far as 3d rendering in general goes. While that=92s true, the missing context is the cost of the tools and the e= xpertise required to deliver shots vs. other solutions puts Element 3d=92s = bang for the buck far beyond any solution I know of. If you are like many A= E users =96 good to strong AE skills, middling to none 3D skills, Element a= llows a huge ROI vs a full blown Maya, Lightwave, Cinema4D setup. Personally, I think Element 3D sell like hotcakes =96 both in taking busine= ss from the mid to low end of 3D users in motion graphics, VFX as well as a= dding far more users to the party. Sure, we=92ll see the same shots a bazil= lion times, but that happens with every tool that changes the price/perform= ance/entry skill level barrier e.g. Shine which changed the AE plugin lands= cape.