Return-Path: Received: from mail-gg0-f169.google.com ([209.85.161.169] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4812781 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 01:35:54 +0200 Received: by ggnf4 with SMTP id f4so1133892ggn.28 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:36:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer:x-gm-message-state; bh=BH2PFhJ4mnJs8saR0JzwPwDxV9LBqdWwRRJ629ocMvc=; b=OSV9BL9mnhDLRTK+TXkKub9EoVjcqUnp8SA+RbZeb5CxIItw/vkv4bK4G0rQkrbGtO iuSyvtS23y36NHw7En4uQBKbB9d5X8rr2uTS+OWokTdALxyTmbaf/5dtbgqUEAI8SFhw tvk5MaTnaOIed/mlec708DQMWYODssyJGFy8Jxrq+Oi4yDrzz58oKxX9f8oWC5IDl6pE 3vxZWOfLzfkI0xKMsdVjch8Y/QWHzLnyaJp1qJ943n2qh6jl9u/iTWGAz7O0h6RMHZtP 01+1CYsarYHc6zIojBp+yhenQuV6MbuseSAipCSh7Fw2aA5P3IKf9KT7BA3un2Cb2j82 zf/Q== Received: by 10.50.91.194 with SMTP id cg2mr14975101igb.13.1344987374595; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:36:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from [10.0.1.35] (99-119-65-9.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [99.119.65.9]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id nh1sm13343661igc.11.2012.08.14.16.36.11 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:36:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Phil Spitler Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1280) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F1B7BCE5-6F5F-47E5-8131-3180F6E5647A" Subject: Re: [AE] Hmm I think I might rather get Mir than Element. Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:36:10 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1280) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmdfQS92zWj5ZrYAS0Za07M6FJqVE9koCMhUlFsRYdtPk3oZtx9Xa7ZuKe7qSYdpb5/IcCG --Apple-Mail=_F1B7BCE5-6F5F-47E5-8131-3180F6E5647A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 I totally agree, I wasn't saying it isn't amazing. It is.. I love that = people are pushing boundaries. Phil Phil Spitler | Creative Technologist | Bonfire Labs | t : = 415.394.8200 | c : 415.571.3139 | Bonfirelabs.com "Get Social" - http://www.facebook.com/bonfirelabs On Aug 14, 2012, at 4:25 PM, Todd Kopriva wrote: > When I look at Element 3D, I don't think of it in comparison to = something like Cinema 4D; I think of it in comparison to other particle = plug-ins. IMNSHO, as a 3D particle plug-in, it is fan-freaking-tastic. >=20 >=20 > ________________________________________ > From: After Effects Mail List [AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of = Stephen van Vuuren [stephen@sv2studios.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 4:20 PM > To: After Effects Mail List > Subject: Re: [AE] Hmm I think I might rather get Mir than Element. >=20 >> The Element 3d demo reel is impressive for something that is rendered = out of AE but not that impressive as far as 3d rendering in general = goes. >=20 > While that=92s true, the missing context is the cost of the tools and = the expertise required to deliver shots vs. other solutions puts Element = 3d=92s bang for the buck far beyond any solution I know of. If you are = like many AE users =96 good to strong AE skills, middling to none 3D = skills, Element allows a huge ROI vs a full blown Maya, Lightwave, = Cinema4D setup. >=20 > Personally, I think Element 3D sell like hotcakes =96 both in taking = business from the mid to low end of 3D users in motion graphics, VFX as = well as adding far more users to the party. Sure, we=92ll see the same = shots a bazillion times, but that happens with every tool that changes = the price/performance/entry skill level barrier e.g. Shine which changed = the AE plugin landscape. >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to --Apple-Mail=_F1B7BCE5-6F5F-47E5-8131-3180F6E5647A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 I = totally agree, I wasn't saying it isn't amazing. It is.. I love that = people are pushing = boundaries.

Phil


Phil Spitler |  Creative = Technologist  |  Bonfire  Labs  |  t : = 415.394.8200  |  c : 415.571.3139  |  Bonfirelabs.com

On Aug 14, 2012, at 4:25 PM, Todd Kopriva wrote:

When = I look at Element 3D, I don't think of it in comparison to something = like Cinema 4D; I think of it in comparison to other particle plug-ins. = IMNSHO, as a 3D particle plug-in, it is = fan-freaking-tastic.


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The Element 3d demo reel is = impressive for something that is rendered out of AE but not that = impressive as far as 3d rendering in general = goes.

While that=92s true, the missing context is = the cost of the tools and the expertise required to deliver shots vs. = other solutions puts Element 3d=92s bang for the buck far beyond any = solution I know of. If you are like many AE users =96 good to strong AE = skills, middling to none 3D skills, Element allows a huge ROI vs a full = blown Maya, Lightwave, Cinema4D setup.

Personally, I think = Element 3D sell like hotcakes =96 both in taking business from the mid = to low end of 3D users in motion graphics, VFX as well as adding far = more users to the party. Sure, we=92ll see the same shots a bazillion = times, but that happens with every tool that changes the = price/performance/entry skill level barrier e.g. Shine which changed the = AE plugin landscape.

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