Return-Path: Received: from mail-pz0-f41.google.com ([209.85.210.41] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4813273 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 15:12:17 +0200 Received: by dadi14 with SMTP id i14so159076dad.28 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:12:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=DawNdA+g4jldG66hC6Fau0IiQQkaWEP4vYWTk1BSmUc=; b=cEH7lkXC+BtWISuvZcY0TDb7PZ2y2IHYIA9kcLML2eBGByHK7myaudepLITBWIw6UX Dgj4EtUJcA6mPWFwNd83yV3sbgghNqUD+5WHCqoepBQke3JHuFjpxruCyRgmhHo8xgJ0 lncUrphBOg1hwUMZNLfkdwXyFNgXkRnLq0Uds0MObAY7LqS+XapeiOXOyLH3n1QIxRvz +SyUC9oRYp1Ymq3qNqiJWs9Nt0EtAs59lKKELTs1N+0ozybqJo5wnTUgwT8EkszXJf/Y uPesBcIfGxHQ+k55mecSh0zpBfgUGLKyNIVGlABB+UGG7wo3qILHW/DzxrAmuBK3WYcE E/sg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.66.88.233 with SMTP id bj9mr7793128pab.72.1345036357930; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.231.166 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:12:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 09:12:37 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Multi-Language issues From: Alan Shisko To: After Effects Mail List , "mylenium@mylenium.de" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d042e0255530f6f04c74dae90 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm+fadV4kd9JkYkk3r1jWKNT09HoVp9czFAQN/qpvWXmHmZIHTVnAohXwuBhU26fsWRKs9s --f46d042e0255530f6f04c74dae90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What's an "SEA version"? Yes, I see what you're talking about. The big issue on my end is that the environment is completely automated and must take whatever is thrown at it: Latin, CJK and variants, Arabic, Cyrillic etc. The combination of App and OS requirements to do it right is going to require some tricky fixes... Thanks, Mylenium. On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 1:48 AM, mylenium@mylenium.de wrote: > ** > > It very much works as it should. You would need the SEA version to avoid > all the issues. I'm not even sure if this got unified in CS6. It > certainly has in PS and AI, but off hand I'm not sure about AE. Also you > would have to set your system to one of those regions to make sure the > correct glyph ranges are used for parts where things are happening in the > first few hundred characters, i.e. the standard ISO/ Latin encoding. Your > spaces are one such case. To my knowledge, you can't suppress the > substitution completely, but you may get better results by having > commercial fonts for those languages on your system that map glyphs > differently and also embed the basic alphabets redundantly in multiple > Unicode ranges. > > > > Mylenium > > [Pour Myl=E8ne, ange sur terre] > ----------------------------------------- > www.mylenium.de > > > Alan Shisko hat am 14. August 2012 um 20:50 > geschrieben: > > Back after an extended absence! > > Looking for somebody that has extensive experience with multi-region > languages in Ae. Running Ae CS 5.5 in Win7 64 Pro. The issues that I'm > having are... > > - After Effects substitutes the chosen font (say, Arial) when a > double-byte font (such as simplified Chinese) is pasted into the text > layer. > - If the pasted text is Japanese, it substitutes the font Kozuka Gothic > Pr6N. No problemo. But if the pasted text is simplified Chinese, it > substitutes for the same font (Kozuka). It's a Japanese font, so there ar= e > some glyphs that don't get represented or displayed. > - If the pasted text is Korean, the substitute font is Gulim (but any > spaces remain Arial, just to confuse things). > > Looking for the logic that Ae employs. What I'd like to do is control th= e > substitution by either a) Denying font substitution altogether, or b) hav= e > the ability to choose which font I want Ae to use (how, I'm don't yet > know). > > I'm working in a highly-automated environment, so this isn't something > that I can do manually. > > Thoughts, anyone? > > Alan > > -- > > Mobile: 416-532-4425 > > Office: 1 877-JUGNOO-1 Fax: 1 877-584-6669 > > > > Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/JugnooMe > > > > Follow us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/JugnooMe > > Join us on LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/company/jugnoo-inc. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Confidentiality Warning: This message and any attachments are intended > only for the use of the intended recipient(s), are confidential, and may = be > privileged. 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Yes, I see what y= ou're talking about. The big issue on my end is that the environment is= completely automated and must take whatever is thrown at it: Latin, CJK an= d variants, Arabic, Cyrillic etc. The combination of App and OS requirement= s to do it right is going to require some tricky fixes...

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It very much works as it should. You would ne= ed the SEA version to avoid all the issues. I'm not even sure if = this got unified in CS6. It certainly has in PS and AI, but off hand I'= m not sure about AE. Also you would have to set your system to one of those= regions to make sure the correct glyph ranges are used for parts where thi= ngs are happening in the first few hundred characters, i.e. the standard IS= O/ Latin encoding. Your spaces are one such case. To my knowledge, you can&= #39;t suppress the substitution completely, but you may get better results = by having commercial fonts for those languages on your system that map glyp= hs differently and also embed the basic alphabets redundantly in multiple U= nicode ranges.

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