Return-Path: Received: from p3plsmtpa07-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net ([173.201.192.231] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 4819033 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:47:26 +0200 Received: (qmail 13077 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2012 19:47:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (173.247.4.230) by p3plsmtpa07-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (173.201.192.231) with ESMTP; 20 Aug 2012 19:47:56 -0000 Message-ID: <50329468.1010708@delrazor.com> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 15:47:52 -0400 From: Greg Balint Organization: delRAZOR User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] weird References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040304030302050301040001" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040304030302050301040001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I can confirm this, using Win7 Ultimate 64 with the .1 update. Trying to work out a nice Particular flow, with air dynamics, changing the "particles per second rate" from full on to 0 and then sliding those 2 key frames around causes issues with image cache.. see most of the same frames from before, and then some pops here and there of the newer frames. seems to happen a lot.. I have only worked a little bit in CS6 since signing up for Creative Cloud, but I swear I've probably already Purged my image cache about 200 times on 1 small project with Particular. ///Greg Balint //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer /321.514.4839 delRAZOR.com/ On 8/20/2012 3:28 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: > Working on PC, win 7 pro, AE CS6 with the .1 update, I also had a > similar disk cache issue - I needed to purge disk cache for the scene > to update, otherwise it was replaying frames from a previous ram > render when I'd re-render a ram preview. Basically AE didn't seem to > realize the scene had changed and tried to pull old frames from disk. > this was in a project using the raytrace 3d renderer. Like Jim said, > this is a total workflow killer. I will also provide a bug report > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Jim Curtis > wrote: > > Now, I'm seeing it in Lion, on layers with no plug-ins applied. > Off to file a bug report. > > > On Aug 3, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: > > > After working on Lion since I wrote this, I'm not seeing this > weird caching issue lately. So, I'm guessing this is a Mountain > Lion issue. > > > > > > > > On Jul 30, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Jim Curtis wrote: > > > >> It takes several minutes to empty my disk cache, so it's > starting to be a productivity killer, and turning off the disk > cache was the only way to get my work done. This defeats one of > the coolest new CS6 features. I was starting to see more and more > images in my main comps that didn't belong. > >> > >> I also discovered over the weekend that Ps wouldn't open some > valuable files, like my DVD template. Appears to be related to > the Draconian security "features" in Mountain Lion. > >> > >> I'm going back to Lion. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Jul 29, 2012, at 5:47 PM, Todd Kopriva > wrote: > >> > >>> The purge to be performed isn't of the RAM but of the disk > cache. Click the Empty Disk Cache button in the Media & Disk Cache > preferences. And please submit a detailed bug report so that we > can look into this: http://adobe.ly/ReportBug > >>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv > ] On > >>>> Behalf Of Jim Curtis > >>>> Sent: 29July2012 14:23 > >>>> To: After Effects Mail List > >>>> Subject: Re: [AE] weird > >>>> > >>>> Today I'm getting the same behavior, but there are no > plug-ins to blame > >>>> this time. I changed a position keyframe on a precomp from a > >>>> horizontal move to a vertical one. Yet, in the main comp, the > >>>> horizontal move is persisting, and this is even after > invoking a Purge > >>>> All. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> . > >> > >> > >> +---End of message---+ > >> To unsubscribe send any message to > > > > > > > +---End of message---+ > > To unsubscribe send any message to > > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > > > > > > -- > Animator & Editor > www.teddygage.com > Brooklyn > --------------040304030302050301040001 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I can confirm this, using Win7 Ultimate 64 with the .1 update.  Trying to work out a nice Particular flow, with air dynamics, changing the "particles per second rate" from full on to 0 and then sliding those 2 key frames around causes issues with image cache.. see most of the same frames from before, and then some pops here and there of the newer frames.

seems to happen a lot.. I have only worked a little bit in CS6 since signing up for Creative Cloud, but I swear I've probably already Purged my image cache about 200 times on 1 small project with Particular.


///Greg Balint
//Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
/321.514.4839
delRAZOR.com/
On 8/20/2012 3:28 PM, Teddy Gage wrote:
Working on PC, win 7 pro, AE CS6 with the .1 update, I also had a similar disk cache issue - I needed to purge disk cache for the scene to update, otherwise it was replaying frames from a previous ram render when I'd re-render a ram preview. Basically AE didn't seem to realize the scene had changed and tried to pull old frames from disk. this was in a project using the raytrace 3d renderer. Like Jim said, this is a total workflow killer. I will also provide a bug report

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com> wrote:
Now, I'm seeing it in Lion, on layers with no plug-ins applied.  Off to file a bug report.


On Aug 3, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Jim Curtis wrote:

> After working on Lion since I wrote this, I'm not seeing this weird caching issue lately.  So, I'm guessing this is a Mountain Lion issue.
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> On Jul 30, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Jim Curtis wrote:
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>> It takes several minutes to empty my disk cache, so it's starting to be a productivity killer, and turning off the disk cache was the only way to get my work done.  This defeats one of the coolest new CS6 features.  I was starting to see more and more images in my main comps that didn't belong.
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>> I also discovered over the weekend that Ps wouldn't open some valuable files, like my DVD template.  Appears to be related to the Draconian security "features" in Mountain Lion.
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>> I'm going back to Lion.
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>> On Jul 29, 2012, at 5:47 PM, Todd Kopriva <kopriva@adobe.com> wrote:
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>>> The purge to be performed isn't of the RAM but of the disk cache. Click the Empty Disk Cache button in the Media & Disk Cache preferences. And please submit a detailed bug report so that we can look into this: http://adobe.ly/ReportBug
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On
>>>> Behalf Of Jim Curtis
>>>> Sent: 29July2012 14:23
>>>> To: After Effects Mail List
>>>> Subject: Re: [AE] weird
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>>>> Today I'm getting the same behavior, but there are no plug-ins to blame
>>>> this time.  I changed a position keyframe on a precomp from a
>>>> horizontal move to a vertical one.  Yet, in the main comp, the
>>>> horizontal move is persisting, and this is even after invoking a Purge
>>>> All.
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