Return-Path: Received: from nk11p03mm-asmtp008.mac.com ([17.158.232.43] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4819911 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:27:48 +0200 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Eo83mDRLKgFMvI3WtalIrw)" Received: from [192.168.1.68] ([99.152.153.100]) by nk11p03mm-asmtp008.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0M9400A625R2F650@nk11p03mm-asmtp008.mac.com> for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:28:21 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855,1.0.260,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-08-21_05:2012-08-21,2012-08-21,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1208210160 From: Jim Curtis Subject: Re: [AE] OT: AME Match Source Attributes Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 11:28:14 -0500 In-reply-to: To: After Effects Mail List References: Message-id: <5CE35CFF-2AEF-4775-B882-BA0827FFA2B1@me.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) --Boundary_(ID_Eo83mDRLKgFMvI3WtalIrw) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT That you're on Windows may explain it. I have read of a method to encode to ProRes on Windows, but it requires a third-party app, and some hoop-jumping, IIRC. So, I presume even with this software installed, you wouldn't see ProRes as an export option in AME, Ae or Pr. What about AVI? Isn't that available as a Match Source option? I just tried Avid Meridian Compressed, as an experiment, as a Preview option, and Match Settings works for Export there, too. I'm on Mac, BTW. On Aug 21, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Robert Kjettrup wrote: > hmmmm.... > > i just checked here again.... i only get the "Automatic (based on source)" option on the different properties on the following formats: > MPEG2 Blu-ray > MPEG2-DVD > H.264 Blu-ray (Legacy) > FLV > F4V > ...the two last there is only the framerate that you can take from source, but it automaticly takes the size from source, then you have to check a box to force it to resize. Another inconsistency in AME. > I am on a windows machine so i don't have access to the Prores encode presets, but none of my quicktime codecs has the option to use the source attributes. ? > > > Robert Kjettrup / Grafiker / STV Mayday > Mobil: 25 18 95 16 > Mail: robert@stvmayday.dk > > > 2012/8/21 Jim Curtis > Robert, I use ProRes as a Preview format, and Match Source Attributes is available to me. > > Byron, to your OP, once you change anything, you're not matching source attributes any longer. So, there's your answer. > > It's easy to make presets. Just pick an export format that contains the codec you want, modify anything else, and save it. > > Presets sort alphanumerically, so that's something I keep in mind when naming them. Putting the most used ones at the top saves a bit of time. Consistent naming methods keep everything grouped nicely, and minimize my searching for the one I want. > > > > On Aug 21, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Robert Kjettrup wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I think it is only mpeg2 that has the "match source attributes" setting, which is a shame since it could be nice to have in every format... AME could use a good cleanup in making the settings for the different formats more alike. Some has bitrate in Kbps others in more useful Mbps, some has a framerate setting, some don't. >> And the "Filters"tab should just be removed and replaced with a effectpreset independent of the encodesettings, so you could add different effects to a clip, like add black leadin/leadout, adjust volume, apply a LUT, timecode burnin, etc... >> >> >> Robert Kjettrup / Grafiker / STV Mayday >> Mobil: 25 18 95 16 >> Mail: robert@stvmayday.dk >> >> >> 2012/8/21 Byron Nash >> Sorry for the OT, I haven't been able to find an answer to this and usually assume if this list doesn't know, it's the end of the road. ;-) >> >> Some of the presets in Adobe Media Encoder(CS6 here) have "Match Source Attributes" for the size, frame rate, etc.. I would like to make some presets that convert footage to other formats without changing the size and frame rate. I see no way to set values to "Match Source" when making a preset. Looks like I would have to create presets for every size I might run into. Has anyone found a good workaround for this? >> >> Thanks, >> Byron >> > > --Boundary_(ID_Eo83mDRLKgFMvI3WtalIrw) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable That = you're on Windows may explain it.  

I have read = of a method to encode to ProRes on Windows, but it requires a = third-party app, and some hoop-jumping, IIRC.  So, I presume even = with this software installed, you wouldn't see ProRes as an export = option in AME, Ae or Pr.

What about AVI? =  Isn't that available as a Match Source = option?

I just tried Avid Meridian Compressed, = as an experiment, as a Preview option, and Match Settings works for = Export there, too.

I'm on Mac, = BTW.



On Aug 21, = 2012, at 10:54 AM, Robert Kjettrup wrote:

hmmmm.... 

i just checked here = again.... i only get the "Automatic (based on source)" option on the = different properties on the following formats:
MPEG2 = Blu-ray
MPEG2-DVD
H.264 Blu-ray (Legacy)
FLV
F4V
...the = two last there is only the framerate that you can take from source, but = it automaticly takes the size from source, then you have to check a box = to force it to resize. Another inconsistency in AME.
I am on a windows machine so i don't have access to the Prores = encode presets, but none of my quicktime codecs has the option to use = the source attributes. ?


Robert= Kjettrup / Grafiker / STV Mayday
Mobil: 25 18 95 16
Mail: robert@stvmayday.dk


2012/8/21 Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com>
Robert, I use ProRes as a Preview = format, and Match Source Attributes is available to = me.

Byron, to your OP, once you change anything, = you're not matching source attributes any longer.  So, there's your = answer.

It's easy to make presets.  Just pick an export = format that contains the codec you want, modify anything else, and save = it.  

Presets sort alphanumerically, so = that's something I keep in mind when naming them.  Putting the most = used ones at the top saves a bit of time.  Consistent naming = methods keep everything grouped nicely, and minimize my searching for = the one I want.



On= Aug 21, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Robert Kjettrup wrote:

= Hi
=
= I think it is only mpeg2 that has the "match source attributes" setting, = which is a shame since it could be nice to have in every format... AME = could use a good cleanup in making the settings for the different = formats more alike. Some has bitrate in Kbps others in more useful Mbps, = some has a framerate setting, some don't.
= And the "Filters"tab should just be removed and replaced with a = effectpreset independent of the encodesettings, so you could add = different effects to a clip, like add black leadin/leadout, adjust = volume, apply a LUT, timecode burnin, etc...
=
=
Robert Kjettrup / Grafiker / STV Mayday
Mobil: 25 18 95 = 16
Mail: robert@stvmayday.dk


2012/8/21 Byron Nash <byronnash@gmail.com>
Sorry for the OT, I haven't been able to find an answer to this and = usually assume if this list doesn't know, it's the end of the road. = ;-)

Some of the presets in Adobe Media Encoder(CS6 = here) have "Match Source Attributes" for the size, frame rate, etc.. I = would like to make some presets that convert footage to other formats = without changing the size and frame rate. I see no way to set values to = "Match Source" when making a preset. Looks like I would have to = create presets for every size I might run into. Has anyone found a good = workaround for this?

Thanks,
Byron

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