Return-Path: Received: from na3sys009aog114.obsmtp.com ([74.125.149.211] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 4820127 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 22:30:14 +0200 Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com ([209.85.220.169]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys009aob114.postini.com ([74.125.148.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUDPv98a5iqZwG8GZ7IFXeI+B/SRYMvVU@postini.com; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 13:30:49 PDT Received: by vcbfl10 with SMTP id fl10so296990vcb.0 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 13:30:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=totaltraining.com; s=google; h=from:content-type:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to:x-mailer; bh=Avzl66qYlLSg863xD+U/c6K1VRyo6PxTaFN5DtWgnvM=; b=HN3GIb2C079W2tt0iZpWoPF09+ZmtpIAMTom2+1jgGpF0WREuvG4cXRkSBmI6Pd6eJ KYmeoK9DTKc6yQOnAJKdOXMPW/5W3uhU9FWipIc3fsq4BctCYLRQRkoSUJn3QQphlBgE 5bgyvoeNLMfaFlWlXGWRJHipbT3Jbf6NVLhtQ= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to:x-mailer:x-gm-message-state; bh=Avzl66qYlLSg863xD+U/c6K1VRyo6PxTaFN5DtWgnvM=; b=kZW6Yg31vEgRKb1jWi+0b9TwGODOalFR9n7qfGPUlXy5jpQtSQBf2rDqoKukTmt3HN GkekG3KSM258hu6NfXzamg+jrAgXYbDwBflen8lXi9S9JcJ9jz5oQzaChfiCTN+/w7pC I+or+5HaAh9Z3f+iqwiqTH6nrH9ha6BLL485n/DAr+EDARHGh6a/+hXc9wz1ttm/a/OL eCTsu+CXCKcQ0cOkMcyweq8SWlrUwmaVOdtJO3oEDDdvLmNdgrD8ja99n4NuqyxjWVMq lQY8rGbC3WulBp3yOnlbRQM+7K3RBI3mmJzqvKQvsH0g4XgSdKn6EokeYq5zUPt6PTEg wHNw== Received: by 10.221.13.72 with SMTP id pl8mr14688506vcb.5.1345581045236; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 13:30:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from macintosh-5.home (pool-108-6-60-130.nycmny.fios.verizon.net. [108.6.60.130]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b2sm1213020vdu.3.2012.08.21.13.30.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 21 Aug 2012 13:30:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Maffitt Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F5A8C2F2-E8B1-43BD-8494-768BB4D42E29" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) Subject: Re: [AE] [Semi-OT] Welcome to The Aescripts + Aeplugins Playground Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:30:20 -0400 References: To: "After Effects Mail List" In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm4sWZm7rwqPVtm7+1yC1LxtT87GTIPcGZ7rjFTMwa6RVN/R14qwA9tEwiotkjGIR2no9pQ --Apple-Mail=_F5A8C2F2-E8B1-43BD-8494-768BB4D42E29 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 That is a stunning piece of motion graphics. Well done, and kudos to = Ariel! > Holy Schnikeez.. this is an awesome piece by Ariel Costa / = Blinkmybrain=20 >=20 > https://vimeo.com/47684693 >=20 > Lloyd?, you picked a winner with this guy.. Geez that's fun to watch = and very well designed. Very inspiring. >=20 >=20 >=20 > ///Greg Balint > //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer > /321.514.4839 > delRAZOR.com/=20 > On 8/21/2012 3:39 PM, Byron Nash wrote: >> I'm with Robert, I don't get the Match Source on anything but what he = listed. This is for both Mac & Windows. >>=20 >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Glen Tubbesing = wrote: >> Just a heads up for everyone. Make sure you put that extra 'u' in = studio in Robert's link. I didn't the first time and got a 404 error. >>=20 >> Glen Tubbesing >> Caples Productions >> Las Vegas, NV >>=20 >>=20 >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Robert Kjettrup = wrote: >> that sounds weird... >>=20 >> Am i overlooking something really simple here that i have wanted in = AME all these years?=20 >> Are you seeing "match source" as an option for all quicktime codecs = when entering the "export settings" dialog box? >> Is there really a difference in the win and mac versions of AME? >>=20 >> I use FFMPEG and "Another GUI" as a frontend to generate Prores = files, and it seems to work ok, no FCP user i have delivered to has = complained yet :-) >> It doesn't make Prores output possible through any regular programs = you have to do this extra step to convert the files, maybe Adobe could = include FFMPEG as an encoder engine in AME someday :-) >> Only problem with this workflow is i can't get ffmpeg to encode = excact colors in the Prores if my input file is a YUV file, it only = seems to work 100% correct with RGB encoded input files, but maybe there = is some obscure ffmpeg setting that i can't figure out how to use. >> Heres a link to any windows user who doesn't know this small program: >> http://www.stuudio.ee/anothergui/ >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Robert Kjettrup / Grafiker / STV Mayday >> Mobil: 25 18 95 16 >> Mail: robert@stvmayday.dk >>=20 >>=20 >> 2012/8/21 Jim Curtis >> That you're on Windows may explain it. =20 >>=20 >> I have read of a method to encode to ProRes on Windows, but it = requires a third-party app, and some hoop-jumping, IIRC. So, I presume = even with this software installed, you wouldn't see ProRes as an export = option in AME, Ae or Pr. >>=20 >> What about AVI? Isn't that available as a Match Source option? >>=20 >> I just tried Avid Meridian Compressed, as an experiment, as a Preview = option, and Match Settings works for Export there, too. >>=20 >> I'm on Mac, BTW. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Aug 21, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Robert Kjettrup wrote: >>=20 >>> hmmmm....=20 >>>=20 >>> i just checked here again.... i only get the "Automatic (based on = source)" option on the different properties on the following formats: >>> MPEG2 Blu-ray >>> MPEG2-DVD >>> H.264 Blu-ray (Legacy) >>> FLV >>> F4V >>> ...the two last there is only the framerate that you can take from = source, but it automaticly takes the size from source, then you have to = check a box to force it to resize. Another inconsistency in AME. >>> I am on a windows machine so i don't have access to the Prores = encode presets, but none of my quicktime codecs has the option to use = the source attributes. ? >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Robert Kjettrup / Grafiker / STV Mayday >>> Mobil: 25 18 95 16 >>> Mail: robert@stvmayday.dk >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> 2012/8/21 Jim Curtis >>> Robert, I use ProRes as a Preview format, and Match Source = Attributes is available to me. >>>=20 >>> Byron, to your OP, once you change anything, you're not matching = source attributes any longer. So, there's your answer. >>>=20 >>> It's easy to make presets. Just pick an export format that contains = the codec you want, modify anything else, and save it. =20 >>>=20 >>> Presets sort alphanumerically, so that's something I keep in mind = when naming them. Putting the most used ones at the top saves a bit of = time. Consistent naming methods keep everything grouped nicely, and = minimize my = searching for the one I want. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Aug 21, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Robert Kjettrup wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Hi >>>>=20 >>>> I think it is only mpeg2 that has the "match source attributes" = setting, which is a shame since it could be nice to have in every = format... AME could use a good cleanup in making the settings for the = different formats more alike. Some has bitrate in Kbps others in more = useful Mbps, some has a framerate setting, some don't. >>>> And the "Filters"tab should just be removed and replaced with a = effectpreset independent of the encodesettings, so you could add = different effects to a clip, like add black leadin/leadout, adjust = volume, apply = a LUT, timecode burnin, etc... >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Robert Kjettrup / Grafiker / STV Mayday >>>> Mobil: 25 18 95 16 >>>> Mail: robert@stvmayday.dk >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> 2012/8/21 Byron Nash >>>> Sorry for the OT, I haven't been able to find an answer to this and = usually assume if this list doesn't know, it's the end of the road. ;-) >>>>=20 >>>> Some of the presets in Adobe Media Encoder(CS6 here) have "Match = Source Attributes" for the size, frame rate, etc.. I would like to make = some presets that convert footage to other formats without changing the = size and frame rate. I see no way to set values to "Match Source" when = making a preset. Looks like I would have to create presets for every = size I might run into. Has anyone found a good workaround for this? >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks, >>>> Byron >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_F5A8C2F2-E8B1-43BD-8494-768BB4D42E29 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 That is a stunning piece of motion graphics. Well done, and kudos to Ariel!

Holy Schnikeez.. this is an awesome piece by Ariel Costa / Blinkmybrain

https://vimeo.com/47684693

Lloyd?, you picked a winner with this guy.. Geez that's fun to watch and very well designed.  Very inspiring.



///Greg Balint
//Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
/321.514.4839
delRAZOR.com/
On 8/21/2012 3:39 PM, Byron Nash wrote:
I'm with Robert, I don't get the Match Source on anything but what he listed. This is for both Mac & Windows.

On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Glen Tubbesing <gtubbesing@gmail.com> wrote:
Just a heads up for everyone.  Make sure you put that extra 'u' in studio in Robert's link.  I didn't the first time and got a 404 error.

Glen Tubbesing
Caples Productions
Las Vegas, NV


On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Robert Kjettrup <robert@stvmayday.dk> wrote:
that sounds weird...

Am i overlooking something really simple here that i have wanted in AME all these years? 
Are you seeing "match source" as an option for all quicktime codecs when entering the "export settings" dialog box?
Is there really a difference in the win and mac versions of AME?

I use FFMPEG and "Another GUI" as a frontend to generate Prores files, and it seems to work ok, no FCP user i have delivered to has complained yet :-)
It doesn't make Prores output possible through any regular programs you have to do this extra step to convert the files, maybe Adobe could include FFMPEG as an encoder engine in AME someday :-)
Only problem with this workflow is i can't get ffmpeg to encode excact colors in the Prores if my input file is a YUV file, it only seems to work 100% correct with RGB encoded input files, but maybe there is some obscure ffmpeg setting that i can't figure out how to use.
Heres a link to any windows user who doesn't know this small program:



Robert Kjettrup / Grafiker / STV Mayday
Mobil: 25 18 95 16
Mail: robert@stvmayday.dk


2012/8/21 Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com>
That you're on Windows may explain it.  

I have read of a method to encode to ProRes on Windows, but it requires a third-party app, and some hoop-jumping, IIRC.  So, I presume even with this software installed, you wouldn't see ProRes as an export option in AME, Ae or Pr.

What about AVI?  Isn't that available as a Match Source option?

I just tried Avid Meridian Compressed, as an experiment, as a Preview option, and Match Settings works for Export there, too.

I'm on Mac, BTW.



On Aug 21, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Robert Kjettrup wrote:

hmmmm.... 

i just checked here again.... i only get the "Automatic (based on source)" option on the different properties on the following formats:
MPEG2 Blu-ray
MPEG2-DVD
H.264 Blu-ray (Legacy)
FLV
F4V
...the two last there is only the framerate that you can take from source, but it automaticly takes the size from source, then you have to check a box to force it to resize. Another inconsistency in AME.
I am on a windows machine so i don't have access to the Prores encode presets, but none of my quicktime codecs has the option to use the source attributes. ?


Robert Kjettrup / Grafiker / STV Mayday
Mobil: 25 18 95 16
Mail: robert@stvmayday.dk


2012/8/21 Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com>
Robert, I use ProRes as a Preview format, and Match Source Attributes is available to me.

Byron, to your OP, once you change anything, you're not matching source attributes any longer.  So, there's your answer.

It's easy to make presets.  Just pick an export format that contains the codec you want, modify anything else, and save it.  

Presets sort alphanumerically, so that's something I keep in mind when naming them.  Putting the most used ones at the top saves a bit of time.  Consistent naming methods keep everything grouped nicely, and minimize my searching for the one I want.



On Aug 21, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Robert Kjettrup wrote:

Hi

I think it is only mpeg2 that has the "match source attributes" setting, which is a shame since it could be nice to have in every format... AME could use a good cleanup in making the settings for the different formats more alike. Some has bitrate in Kbps others in more useful Mbps, some has a framerate setting, some don't.
And the "Filters"tab should just be removed and replaced with a effectpreset independent of the encodesettings, so you could add different effects to a clip, like add black leadin/leadout, adjust volume, apply a LUT, timecode burnin, etc...


Robert Kjettrup / Grafiker / STV Mayday
Mobil: 25 18 95 16
Mail: robert@stvmayday.dk


2012/8/21 Byron Nash <byronnash@gmail.com>
Sorry for the OT, I haven't been able to find an answer to this and usually assume if this list doesn't know, it's the end of the road. ;-)

Some of the presets in Adobe Media Encoder(CS6 here) have "Match Source Attributes" for the size, frame rate, etc.. I would like to make some presets that convert footage to other formats without changing the size and frame rate. I see no way to set values to "Match Source" when making a preset. Looks like I would have to create presets for every size I might run into. Has anyone found a good workaround for this?

Thanks,
Byron









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