Return-Path: Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com ([209.85.220.169] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4831608 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 17:51:45 +0200 Received: by vcbfl13 with SMTP id fl13so3346681vcb.28 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 08:52:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=eU+E676rb8NxEZyzB2zSg0WSzkNiOqwIEnaezAtTDiU=; b=PTihLAQ9hPvtHnaeA7mqtTfdS56ovfT1llAhlaKHoS01yebE5GF5UDNY4HRqsREiiV NW1kL1qRO9Ooll9dNxkjz4/5xO2J9/occRbhOUZeDizq6zF/7NZ66Lxmp0W1t7DEUkaS iGXx+XktoRLs/G6FloClM8WaDwY1QJfEJ3BgBza9N4t8907c+0CSJ3x2ttgu29ijn7Xy jgXfETzHlWMO2MzTTHIz5Trbma7szaiWSXlZnb8sPW4Rnj5QVp5Bng9Diwc+ndre+57W EEeWLHVgl8zox/bA1XjTNww6bS6nDp11pssDx9Sc5+15cw01D4iF7lXCcGty7kGE/zz9 ND6w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.221.2.2 with SMTP id ns2mr5641224vcb.74.1346428357278; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 08:52:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.36.132 with HTTP; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 08:52:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 11:52:37 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Morphing without paid 3rd party plugins? From: rendernyc To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54ee9aef37cd404c891c786 --bcaec54ee9aef37cd404c891c786 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 very nice exanples chris! On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Chris Bobotis wrote: > Greg show your client this: > http://www.mettle.com/freeform-pro-and-evolution-of-style-2/ > > Done with re:vision fx (and our stuff). > > This may convince them to ante up for re:vision fx > > I would not take on a morphing gig without it. > > Cheers, > Chris > mettle.com > On 2012-08-31, at 10:34 AM, Greg Balint wrote: > > maybe i need to reiterate.. $600 is probably too much to tack on to my > already absorbently high celebrity rock-star fees.. :) seriously though, > I'll consider it once the client lets me know their total budget.. I just > let them know that the best option is to use this plugin, and they'll get > back to me once their client pins down a final budget. > > ///Greg Balint > //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer > /321.514.4839 > delRAZOR.com/ > > On 8/31/2012 10:30 AM, Lloyd Alvarez wrote: > > I cannot recommend the Revision plugins enough. They have by far the best > warping/morphing workflow which will ultimately lead to the best results. > Well worth their price, if $600 is too much for a morphing job you are > giving your client the deal of the century. > > Also don't forget that once you buy it it will be a tool you can use on > other jobs. Re:Flex Warp is a plugin you will use often, I guarantee it. > > -Lloyd > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Teddy Gage wrote: > >> Your instincts are pretty correct greg. While possible to use free form >> pro or distort -> reshape, your results are probably not going to be great >> even with many hours of effort. I'd stay away from pixel motion frame >> blending... in my experience it's pretty crap for something as complicated >> as a facial morph. If the client can't afford it, maybe suggest an >> alternative effect. Otherwise you may be banging your head against the wall >> On Aug 31, 2012 10:00 AM, "Greg Balint" wrote: >> >>> Hey everyone. >>> >>> A client of mine has asked if I can do morphing.. mostly interfacial and >>> possible other situations. >>> >>> I've looked around, and although RE:Flex seems to be the best option, >>> the client's budget won't really lend itself to purchasing a $600 plugin >>> for this project. >>> >>> I've looked around, and the only 2 other options I've found, is to >>> exploit the Pixel Motion Frame Blending between a timestretched sequence of >>> images to get it to blend together, or to use Distort > Reshape, but I >>> think that will only work if my from and to frames are more like profile >>> images, not head-on images. >>> >>> So I'm wondering if anyone has been able to achieve classic morphing >>> between 2 front-looking faces within AE's native plugins at all. >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> >>> ///Greg Balint >>> //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer >>> /321.514.4839 >>> delRAZOR.com/ >>> >>> On 8/31/2012 9:16 AM, Chris Zwar wrote: >>> >>>> AFAIK it's an OS limitation. It's the same on Macs and Windows. It's >>>> a pretty rare problem to run into - I can think of 3 times in about 15 >>>> years that it's happened to me, so even if it's something that Adobe can >>>> fix then it's probably pretty low on their priorities. >>>> >>>> On 31/08/2012, at 9:02 PM, Peter Mock wrote: >>>> >>>> Thank you Chris, >>>>> This is a really ennoying error in AE, >>>>> Aren't they able to fix this? >>>>> Peter >>>>> >>>>> On 31 Aug 2012, at 11:54, Chris Zwar wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> This happens when the total number of characters in the file path >>>>>> exceeds 255 characters. It usually happens when you have lots of folders >>>>>> nested inside each other, but can also happen if your directories and files >>>>>> have very long names. The solution is to either re-name the offending file >>>>>> with a shorter name, or if it happens a lot, then reduce the number of >>>>>> folders that are nested inside each other. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Chris >>>>>> >>>>>> On 31/08/2012, at 5:34 PM, Peter Mock wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Good Morning everyone, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ..... at least it is morning here in London :-) >>>>>>> I am dealing with a fast project that has grown like a fungus in all >>>>>>> directions >>>>>>> during the last months and i am in the process of backing it up and >>>>>>> i have to >>>>>>> do it very well since it is 130 GB big including all surplus assets >>>>>>> which i dont >>>>>>> need anymore! >>>>>>> After reducing the project to its bare essentials I initiated >>>>>>> 'collect files' and >>>>>>> received the following erroe message in AE CS5, AE CS5.5 and AE CS6: >>>>>>> After Effects error: File path "2min_Retail_J01_1-5.psd" is too long" >>>>>>> I used a lot of multilayered psd compositions .... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What does that mean and how can I resolve that ??..... I have >>>>>>> thousands of files >>>>>>> that need backing up and need to separate them from the ones which >>>>>>> are not >>>>>>> used in the project. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For any advice me and my client would be very grateful >>>>>>> Thanks and have a wonderful day >>>>>>> Peter >>>>>>> >>>>>>> +---End of message---+ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> +---End of message---+ >>>>>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>>>> >>>>> +---End of message---+ >>>>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>>> >>>>> >>>> +---End of message---+ >>>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>> >> > > > Cheers, > Chris > Mettle.com > Skype: Mettlecom > > > > -- danny princz exposedideas.com --bcaec54ee9aef37cd404c891c786 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable very nice exanples chris!

On Fri, Aug 31,= 2012 at 11:45 AM, Chris Bobotis <chris@mettle.com> wrote:
Done with re:vision fx (and our stuff).

This may convince them to ante up for re:vision fx

I would not take on a morphing gig without it.=A0

Cheers,
Chris
mettle.com
On 2012-08-31, at 10:3= 4 AM, Greg Balint wrote:

maybe i need to reiterate..=A0 $600 is probably too much to tack on to my already absorbently high celebrity rock-star fees.. :)=A0 seriously though, I'll consider = it once the client lets me know their total budget..=A0 I just let them know that the best option is to use this plugin, and they'll get back to me once their client pins down a final budget.
///Greg Balint
//Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
/321.=
514.4839
delRAZOR.com/
On 8/31/2012 10:30 AM, Lloyd Alvarez wrote:
I cannot recommend the Revision plugins enough. They have by far the best warping/morphing workflow which will=A0ultimately=A0lead to the best=A0results. =A0Well worth their price, if $600 is too much for a morphing job you are giving your client the deal of the century.

Also don't forget that once you buy it it will be a tool you can use on other jobs. =A0Re:Flex Warp is a plugin you will use often, I guarantee it.

-Lloyd

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Teddy Gage &l= t;teddygage@gmail.= com> wrote:

Yo= ur instincts are pretty correct greg. While possible to use free form pro or distort -> reshape, your results are probably not going to be great even with many hours of effort. I'd stay away from pixel motion frame blending... in my experience it's pretty crap for something as complicated as a facial morph. If the client can't afford it, maybe suggest an alternative effect. Otherwise you may be banging your head against the wall

On Aug 31, 2012 10:00 AM, "= Greg Balint" <greg@delrazor.com> wrote:
Hey everyone.

A client of mine has asked if I can do morphing.. mostly interfacial and possible other situations.

I've looked around, and although RE:Flex seems to b= e the best option, the client's budget won't real= ly lend itself to purchasing a $600 plugin for this project.

I've looked around, and the only 2 other options I've found, is to exploit the Pixel Motion Frame Blending between a timestretched sequence of images to get it to blend together, =A0or to use Distort > Reshape, but I think that will only work if my from and to frames are more like profile images, not head-on images.

So I'm wondering if anyone has been able to achieve classic morphing between 2 front-looking faces within AE's native plugins at all.

Thanks in advance,

///Greg Balint
//Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
/321.514.4839
delRAZOR.com/

On 8/31/2012 9:16 AM, Chris Zwar wrote:
AFAIK it's an OS limitation. =A0It's the same= on Macs and Windows. =A0It's a pretty rare problem t= o run into - I can think of 3 times in about 15 years that it's happened to me, so even if it'= ;s something that Adobe can fix then it's probably pretty low on their priorities.

On 31/08/2012, at 9:02 PM, Peter Mock wrote:

Thank you Chris,
This is a really ennoying error in AE,
Aren't they able to fix this?
Peter

On 31 Aug 2012, at 11:54, Chris Zwar <chris@chriszwar.com> wrote:

Hi,

This happens when the total number of characters in the file path exceeds 255 characters. =A0It usually happens when you have lots of folders nested inside each other, but can also happen if your directories and files have very long names. =A0The solution is to either re-name the offending file with a shorter name, or if it happens a lot, then reduce the number of folders that are nested inside each other.

-Chris

On 31/08/2012, at 5:34 PM, Peter Mock wrote:

Good Morning everyone,

..... at least it is morning here in London :-)
I am dealing with a fast project that has grown like a fungus in all directions
during the last months and i am in the process of backing it up and i have to
do it very well since it is 130 GB big including all surplus assets which i dont
need anymore!
After reducing the project to its bare essentials I initiated 'collect files' = and
received the following erroe message in AE CS5, AE CS5.5 and AE CS6:
After Effects error: File path "2min_Retail_J01_1-5.psd" is too long= "
I used a lot of multilayered psd compositions ....

What does that mean and how can I resolve that ??..... I have thousands of files
that need backing up and need to separate them from the ones which are not
used in the project.

For any advice me and my client would be very grateful
Thanks and have a wonderful day
Peter

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