Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.67] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4842950 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 00:38:08 +0200 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=buQod5kPaHwx+FvOY3CLDwahQ2Ujmxh4s0Z43M0ky7UIq7gW/DwpSrIKlTJQ3PCB; h=Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [98.234.231.236] (helo=[10.1.10.99]) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TBZ74-0004XD-Ie for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:39:22 -0400 From: Lou Wirth Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-11--271048905 Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 new 3D Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:42:18 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: <74F21A90-3B6E-44BB-9324-0F1F04488BBE@mindspring.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-ELNK-Trace: f7c94f4255116fd8d4c20f6b8d69d888b7f3a87d4e9c50f1f0e94cc9db45dac1849f0cd5f30906f7350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 98.234.231.236 --Apple-Mail-11--271048905 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 That project or actually one just like it choked my MBP and the only way = to do it on my MacPro was to get a new video card. Lou On Sep 11, 2012, at 3:17 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: > you're insane. that would have probably taken less than an hour on a = new machine. and for under $1000 if you went pc. just saying... >=20 > On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Chris Zwar = wrote: > Oh now I have render envy. > I have an iMac that's over 4 years old, obviously no approved nVidia = card in it. I was playing around with CS6 to produce this tutorial: >=20 > = http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/motiongraphicsvizfx/story/create_an= d_animate_3d_cogs_in_after_effects_-_part_11/ >=20 > The render times were about 55 minutes a frame, for a 640x360 comp = with a quality of about 8. It took a few days of rendering just to = generate the 5 second 3D animation.=20 > It's just too painful to consider using the ray tracer without an = approved card... > The only hassle now is to decide how to upgrade. That's a whole other = discussion... >=20 > On 12/09/2012, at 5:02 AM, Rick wrote: >=20 >> Thank you very much. Render times for this comp with Ray Tracing set = to 6 in a 16 bit project 1920x1080 went from 96 seconds per frame to 3 = seconds. >> =20 >> Rick Emery >> www.rickemery.com >> From: rendernyc >> To: Rick =20 >> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 2:36 PM >> Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 new 3D >>=20 >> you just have to add the 670 to the raytracer_supported_cards.txt >>=20 >> On OSX you have to =93show package contents=94 of the AE app and = then navigate to =93Support Files=94 folder >>=20 >> Then add GeForce GTX 670 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Rick wrote: >> Crap. Just checked. On the 670 system, GPU is grayed out and says = 'incompatible device or display driver'. On the system with the 680 GPU = is available. Looks like someone is losing their 680 tonight. It's good = being the only one in graphics with admin rights for the boxes. (-; >>=20 >> Thanks for the help. I was doing something wrong. Trying to save = $150.00. >>=20 >> =20 >> Rick Emery >> www.rickemery.com >> From: rendernyc >> To: After Effects Mail List ; Rick = =20 >> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 2:09 PM >>=20 >> Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 new 3D >>=20 >> wait, u have CUDA cards and you know that they are working and its = still dreadfully slow? >> are they showing up in the AE Prefs->Previews->GPU??? >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Rick wrote: >> I've got a GTX 680 in one box and a GTX 670 in my box. I got the 680 = on the recommendation of Todd K. When I built this new box, I had a set = budget and got the 670 in order to get a little more ram. When the other = artist leaves tonight, I'll swap out the cards and see what difference = it makes. >>=20 >> My system. >> HP z620 >> 12 core 2.3ghz >> 32GBs ram >> CS 6 Production Premium running on SSD >> EVGA GTX670 2GB ram the other card is EVGA GTX 680 3GB ram. >> =20 >> Rick Emery >> www.rickemery.com >> From: Jim Curtis >> To: After Effects Mail List =20 >> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 1:35 PM >> Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 new 3D >>=20 >> My personal experience is that even with a Quadro 4000 for Mac, = raytrace rendering in Ae is unusably slow. YMMV. >>=20 >> I bought the card for Pr, where it kicks some serious ass. >>=20 >>=20 >> . >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> danny princz >>=20 >> exposedideas.com >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> danny princz >>=20 >> exposedideas.com >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Animator & Editor > www.teddygage.com > Brooklyn >=20 Lou Wirth Productions 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522 Corte Madera, CA 94925 www.louwirth.com 415-924-9411p =20 --Apple-Mail-11--271048905 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 That = project or actually one just like it choked my MBP and the only way to = do it on my MacPro was to get a new video = card.

Lou
On Sep 11, 2012, at 3:17 PM, = Teddy Gage wrote:

you're insane. that would have probably taken less than = an hour on a new machine. and for under $1000 if you went pc. just = saying...

On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 5:37 = PM, Chris Zwar <chris@chriszwar.com> wrote:
Oh now I have render = envy.
I have an iMac that's over 4 years old, obviously no = approved nVidia card in it.  I was playing around with CS6 to = produce this tutorial:


The render times were about 55 minutes a frame, for = a 640x360 comp with a quality of about 8.  It took a few days of = rendering just to generate the 5 second 3D = animation. 
It's just too painful to consider using the = ray tracer without an approved card...
The only hassle now is to decide how to upgrade.  That's a = whole other discussion...

On = 12/09/2012, at 5:02 AM, Rick wrote:

Thank you very much. Render times for this comp with Ray = Tracing set to 6 in a 16 bit project 1920x1080 went from 96 seconds per = frame to 3 seconds.
 
=
From: rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com>
To: Rick <a_pmb_fan@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September = 11, 2012 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 new 3D
=

you just have to add the 670 to the =  raytracer_supported_cards.txt

On OSX you have = to =93show package contents=94  of the AE app and then navigate to = =93Support Files=94 folder

Then add GeForce GTX = 670


On = Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Rick <a_pmb_fan@yahoo.com> wrote:
Crap. Just checked. On the 670 system, GPU = is grayed out and says 'incompatible device or display = driver'.  On the system with the 680 GPU is available. Looks like = someone is losing their 680 tonight. It's good being the only one in = graphics with admin rights for the boxes. (-;

<= div = style=3D"font-style:normal;font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;fon= t-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> Thanks for the help.  I was doing something wrong. = Trying to save $150.00.

 
Rick = Emery
www.rickemery.com
=

From: = rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com>
To: After Effects Mail = List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>; Rick <a_pmb_fan@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September = 11, 2012 2:09 PM

Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 new 3D

wait, u have CUDA cards and you know that they are working and its = still dreadfully slow?
are they showing up in the AE = Prefs->Previews->GPU???



On = Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Rick <a_pmb_fan@yahoo.com> wrote:
I've got a GTX 680 in one box and a GTX 670 in my box. I got the 680 on = the recommendation of Todd K.  When I built this new box, I had a = set budget and got the 670 in order to get a little more ram. When the = other artist leaves tonight, I'll swap out the cards and see what = difference it makes.

My system.
HP z620
12 core 2.3ghz
32GBs ram
CS 6 Production Premium running on SSD
EVGA GTX670 2GB ram  the = other card is EVGA GTX 680 3GB ram.
 

From: Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com>
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: Tuesday, September = 11, 2012 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] CS6 new 3D
=

My personal experience is that even with a Quadro 4000 for Mac, raytrace = rendering in Ae is unusably slow.  YMMV.

I bought the card = for Pr, where it kicks some serious = ass.


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