Return-Path: Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com ([209.85.220.169] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4857884 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 21:52:25 +0200 Received: by vcbfl17 with SMTP id fl17so1162942vcb.28 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 12:54:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=xUgrSMNw0Pn+MofjF2mF03xvb2ri4wmEaJiF06137Ek=; b=H1wUUKHHeL0pUdOJGt3I1zwTUS+QKx6qob/iDG221aRN58ExIvJE75EXhWz4+OyD73 zkZOyfwdbd8/vyziVhMMY8U5tdtcPdv4wSZuDYo2IxDDqu25Xv9XPf/qp0If17za31RJ PE6kMzw8M085VPYTQOPEZe0XYlhns33YOPCBur6DFt2BgK+v0BHS/VNWuyIXGEVqeLci oDFGc7ObJZaueopMMNUQ+ZB1Vun2PcAmZSren01rancH0O0nXTkKtnwfSdi6MvXqDydt O8K8OERC4b2ScfiN+xyUUC6JCfuBUYT4MUnAfBdO1pK2bXahmHfegIQwzgxqkp86cOE5 dPJw== Received: by 10.58.240.15 with SMTP id vw15mr914405vec.36.1348689246830; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 12:54:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.18.212 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 12:53:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Robert Kjettrup Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 21:53:46 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Decklink extreme 3D rampreview support + SDI monitors To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b86c30e783f9404caa02f06 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkO0gFy6uTtQNlEEmTBjCymjpksUlknC0w0EwMhDvLxtmB/huy213iwpWeiTji+YOzxYcMb --047d7b86c30e783f9404caa02f06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes, thats the monitor we had for review, and it is looking really amazing. So good that i know of some who have dismissed it as being too good to evaluate what the picture would look like on a more "normal" screen :-D But this PVM version doesn't have 3Gbps SDI or 4:4:4 input as the Flanders? And the interlace processor is not that good on the PVM sony, not that this is a problem for me, but for others in our company it might be. We would like to standardise on one brand. Do you have a problem with the OLED "flicker" on this model? some had an issue with this when we had the review monitor, some didn't see it. I didn't, might be because of me having gone past the 35th birthday :-)...getting older... I would love to have this Sony monitor at my desk :-) Robert Kjettrup / Grafiker / STV Mayday Mobil: 25 18 95 16 Mail: robert@stvmayday.dk 2012/9/26 Brian Higgins > Sony PVM 24" OLEDs are amazing, and cost a only little more than the > Flanders you mentioned. > http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-monitors/cat-oledmonitors/product-PVM2541/ > > The features probably don't line up exactly with the Flanders, but at > least take a look and see if it works for you. The $1k/inch BVMs are the > same panels with fancier processing on the back end to cover things like > XYZ space for DI mastering that you might not need. I've had a PVM on my > desk for the last 6 months or so and have been very, very happy with it for > broadcast work. > > $.02, > Brian > > > > On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Robert Kjettrup wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I am reseaching a bit on what SDI card to get for a new AE workstation, >> and don't get any positive answers from Blackmagic on what support the >> Decklink Extreme 3D has in After Effects and thought maybe some here on the >> list uses this card and could give some more detailed feedback. >> >> Can this card play back rampreview from AE in realtime in 16 and 32bit >> projects to a SDI monitor? My current outdated legacy AJA card (KONA/XENA >> LH) cant playback 1080/25p 16bit projects in realtime and 32bit projects is >> just a bunch of scrambled mess on the SDI output. AJA gives some very vague >> feedback that this card is not supported anymore and the new cards are >> "updated", but nothing about the new cards being able to handle 16/32bit >> projects. >> >> We are also about to change all our old trusty SD CRT Barco reference >> monitors to something more current (about time!) and i have suggested we >> should go with Flanders Sci. LM2461W. Is this also in here seen as the best >> vs. value monitor? >> We have had a Sony OLED monitor for review, and it is absolutely >> fantastic, but a bit pricy if you want the same options as the Flanders. >> Does anyone have the TVlogic XVM series? >> >> hope this is not too Off Topic for the list? >> >> >> Robert Kjettrup / Grafiker / STV Mayday >> Mobil: 25 18 95 16 >> Mail: robert@stvmayday.dk >> > > > > -- > brian higgins | creative director > Sol Design > 312.706.5500 > higgins@soldesignfx.com > soldesignfx.com > > > > --047d7b86c30e783f9404caa02f06 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, thats the monitor we had for review, and it is looking really amazing.= So good that i know of some who have dismissed it as being too good to eva= luate what the picture would look like on a more "normal" screen = :-D
But this PVM version doesn't have 3Gbps SDI or 4:4:4 input as the Fland= ers?
And the interlace processor is not that good on the PVM sony= , not that this is a problem for me, but for others in our company it might= be. We would like to standardise on one brand.
Do you have a problem with the OLED "flicker" on this model?= some had an issue with this when we had the review monitor, some didn'= t see it. I didn't, might be because of me having gone past the 35th bi= rthday :-)...getting older...

I would love to have this Sony monitor at my desk :-)


Robert Kjettrup / Grafiker / STV = Mayday
Mobil: 25 18 95 16
Mail: robert@stvmayday.dk


2012/9/26 Brian Higgins <higgins@= soldesignfx.com>
Sony PVM 24" OLEDs are amazing, and cost a only little more than the F= landers you mentioned.
http://pro.sony.co= m/bbsc/ssr/cat-monitors/cat-oledmonitors/product-PVM2541/

The features probably don't line up exactly with the Flanders, but = at least take a look and see if it works for you.=A0 The $1k/inch BVMs are = the same panels with fancier processing on the back end to cover things lik= e XYZ space for DI mastering that you might not need.=A0 I've had a PVM= on my desk for the last 6 months or so and have been very, very happy with= it for broadcast work.

$.02,
Brian



On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Robert Kjettrup <= robert@stvmayday.dk> wrote:
Hi

I am reseac= hing a bit on what SDI card to get for a new AE workstation, and don't = get any positive answers from Blackmagic on what support the Decklink Extre= me 3D has in After Effects and thought maybe some here on the list uses thi= s card and could give some more detailed feedback.

Can this card play back rampreview from AE in realtime = in 16 and 32bit projects to a SDI monitor? My current outdated legacy AJA c= ard (KONA/XENA LH) cant playback 1080/25p 16bit projects in realtime and 32= bit projects is just a bunch of scrambled mess on the SDI output. AJA gives= some very vague feedback that this card is not supported anymore and the n= ew cards are "updated", but nothing about the new cards being abl= e to handle 16/32bit projects.

We are also about to change all our old trusty SD CRT B= arco reference monitors to something more current (about time!) and i have = suggested we should go with Flanders Sci. LM2461W. Is this also in here see= n as the best vs. value monitor?=A0
We have had a Sony OLED monitor for review, and it is absolutely fanta= stic, but a bit pricy if you want the same options as the Flanders.
Does anyone have the TVlogic XVM series?

hope t= his is not too Off Topic for the list?


Robert Kjettrup / Grafiker / STV MaydayMobil: 25 18 95 16
Mail: robert@stvmayday.dk



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