Return-Path: Received: from nk11p03mm-asmtp001.mac.com ([17.158.232.236] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4862278 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:51:13 +0200 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_knEJW1nU11j+OWk5611m+Q)" Received: from [192.168.1.68] ([99.152.153.100]) by nk11p03mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MBB005KOTKBZI70@nk11p03mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 16:53:00 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-10-03_02:2012-10-03,2012-10-02,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1210030183 From: Jim Curtis Subject: Re: [AE] OT Mac DVD Question Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 11:52:58 -0500 In-reply-to: To: After Effects Mail List References: Message-id: <5E8F885F-6F9D-4DAB-9972-022CFDADA291@me.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) --Boundary_(ID_knEJW1nU11j+OWk5611m+Q) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Agree with this, but also, your Overlay shouldn't have or doesn't need = an alpha channel (or at least, I've never done it that way). I've just = inverted and exported the alpha channel, resulting in a high-contrast = black and white file. But, it seems to me that if the Simulation is working, you may be OK = with what you have. Try Teddy's advice to play it in a regular DVD = player. On Oct 3, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Teddy Gage wrote: > A computer is not a good testbed dvd player. Too many variables with = the software. What happens in an actual DVD player? And are you sure = your menus are created using non-square pixels in PS? >=20 > On Oct 3, 2012 12:29 PM, "Jonathan Penzner" = wrote: > Apologies for the off-topic, and for a Mac specific question as well, = but perhaps the brain trust can help me out. >=20 > Working in DVDSPRO, ver 4 > OS 10.6.8 > Quicktime 7.6.6 > MacPro Tower 3,1 and a MacBook Pro 8,3 > DVD Player 5.4.2 >=20 > Step 1 - I Create a menu in Photoshop. The text layers become buttons. = Load the selections for the text layers. Save as an alpha channel. = Reverse the alpha. > Step 2 - Save the flattened menu without the alpha in a 720 X 480 = file. Save a separate flattened file of just the alpha. Also 720 X 480. > Step 3 - In DVDSPRO, import both files. Set the menu as the = background. Set the file with the alpha channel as the overlay. Drag to = create the buttons in order, covering the areas of the text and the = corresponding alpha channel. There is no overlap on the areas covered by = the buttons. > Step 4 - Import an M2V and audio file, drag to a track. Set the = buttons to go to the track. Set the track to go back to the menu. > Step 5 - Test in Simulator and everything works perfectly. I can step = through the buttons, they all highlight correctly, displaying all the = states of all the buttons: normal, selected, activated. >=20 > Very simple stuff, and something I've been doing for ages. I don't = think that I've anything different lately. >=20 > The problem is, when I test the build in the DVD player, or, if I burn = a disk and put it in a player, the buttons don't show up correctly. Some = buttons do not highlight in the active or selected state, but play if = you hit enter on the keyboard if you can figure out which button you're = on. You can't select the unhighlighting buttons with a mouse. This has = been happening on two computers =96 a tower and a laptop. >=20 > On top of that =96 this is a side issue and not as crucial =96 the DVD = Player on the tower sometimes forgets to put up the dialog box that asks = whether I want to start the DVD from Last Time Played or the Beginning = of the Disk and jumps into where I was when I quit the Disk, in other = words, opting for Last Time Played. >=20 > I've trashed Prefs for DVDSPRO and the Player, run AppleJack a few = dozen times, repaired Disk Permissions for the Boot Drive, verified the = disk =96 nothing changes the behavior. >=20 > If anyone has any experience with this, I would be thrilled to hear = about it, and, hopefully, what can be done to fix it. This is seriously = killing my productivity. >=20 > Many thanks in advance. >=20 > Jonathan >=20 >=20 > JONATHAN PENZNER > SUNDANCE/REALTIME > VIDEO EDITING =95 MOTION GRAPHICS =95 DESIGN >=20 > | STUDIO 626 345-0285 | > | CELL 818 321-2890 | >=20 > SUREAL@CHARTER.NET >=20 --Boundary_(ID_knEJW1nU11j+OWk5611m+Q) Content-type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Agree = with this, but also, your Overlay shouldn't have or doesn't need an = alpha channel (or at least, I've never done it that way).  I've = just inverted and exported the alpha channel, resulting in a = high-contrast black and white file.

But, it seems to = me that if the Simulation is working, you may be OK with what you have. =  Try Teddy's advice to play it in a regular DVD = player.


On Oct 3, 2012, at 11:43 = AM, Teddy Gage wrote:

A computer is not a good testbed dvd player. Too many = variables with the software. What happens in an actual DVD player? And = are you sure your menus are created using non-square pixels in PS?

On Oct 3, 2012 12:29 PM, "Jonathan Penzner" = <sureal@charter.net> = wrote:
Apologies for the off-topic, = and for a Mac specific question as well, but perhaps the brain trust can = help me out.

Working in DVDSPRO, ver = 4
OS 10.6.8
Quicktime 7.6.6
MacPro Tower 3,1 and a MacBook Pro = 8,3
DVD Player 5.4.2

Step 1 - I = Create a menu in Photoshop. The text layers become buttons. Load the = selections for the text layers. Save as an alpha channel. Reverse the = alpha.
Step 2 - Save the flattened menu without the alpha in a 720 X 480 = file. Save a separate flattened file of just the alpha. Also 720 X = 480.
Step 3 - In DVDSPRO, import both files. Set the menu as = the background. Set the file with the alpha channel as the overlay. Drag = to create the buttons in order, covering the areas of the text and the = corresponding alpha channel. There is no overlap on the areas covered by = the buttons.
Step 4 - Import an M2V and audio file, drag to a track. Set the = buttons to go to the track. Set the track to go back to the = menu.
Step 5 - Test in Simulator and everything works = perfectly. I can step through the buttons, they all highlight correctly, = displaying all the states of all the buttons: normal, selected, = activated.

Very simple stuff, and something I've been doing for = ages. I don't think that I've anything different = lately.

The problem is, when I test the build = in the DVD player, or, if I burn a disk and put it in a player, the = buttons don't show up correctly. Some buttons do not highlight in the = active or selected state, but  play if you hit enter on the = keyboard if you can figure out which button you're on. You can't select = the unhighlighting buttons with a mouse. This has been happening on two = computers =96 a tower and a laptop.

On top of that =96 this is a side issue and not as = crucial =96 the DVD Player on the tower sometimes forgets to put up the = dialog box that asks whether I want to start the DVD from Last Time = Played or the Beginning of the Disk and jumps into where I was when I = quit the Disk, in other words, opting for Last Time Played.

I've trashed Prefs for DVDSPRO and the Player, run = AppleJack a few dozen times, repaired Disk Permissions for the Boot = Drive, verified the disk =96 nothing changes the = behavior.

If anyone has any experience with this, I would be thrilled to hear = about it, and, hopefully, what can be done to fix it. This is seriously = killing my productivity.

Many thanks in = advance.

Jonathan


JONATHAN = PENZNER
SUNDANCE/REALTIME
VIDEO EDITING =95 MOTION = GRAPHICS =95 DESIGN

| STUDIO= = 626 = 345-0285 |
| CELL = 818 = 321-2890 |

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