Return-Path: Received: from mail-la0-f41.google.com ([209.85.215.41] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4862310 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 19:20:15 +0200 Received: by lagp5 with SMTP id p5so2851370lag.28 for ; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 10:22:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=p253HJPTmBfU1gTlihVnYgbhrkPtHPZJoCrETq2rleY=; b=vE0jV+5jUeLSQaeF94PoKR4EnVo9WMjolRTCKX3/neLgwj1VNFfYEaFiPChGKLhMQI +B9TWLcdfnVwEtpKcTTaxHZSMvkNUCzftA4mBe1Bhhmm2bBU4Ht27a+2ohJ7d4S5SHPm E3dXa3Qs1ygxBRUsf1khG0aTVoSrabGAKe9miHJAn3x0uK6lZLNojbquWon7Wd1H1X/8 RffBwrP1ddLntApY3EI6Y9pOuiaLxumA8R/kE26p8vpXiI7ZWuPAHESO3SCsi0NGjn/K gZyJf5BGf+D5u+RDYQVzieeuCTxICwdhmnDUES26hLm913OIL+MCzbrRTN5Mreym4w+E nU9Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.31.194 with SMTP id c2mr1890558lbi.44.1349284931256; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 10:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.132.3 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 10:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.132.3 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 10:22:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 13:22:11 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] OT Mac DVD Question From: Teddy Gage To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0401695107430f04cb2ae140 --f46d0401695107430f04cb2ae140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable DVD authoring will try any man's patience and decency. Could be a problem with the overlay graphic itself? Other than that I'm out of ideas. Been a while since I worked on DVDs. On Oct 3, 2012 12:57 PM, "Jonathan Penzner" wrote: > Thanks for the reply, Teddy. > > To answer the last question first: I use a square pixel file to create > everything, then scale to 720 X 480 and flatten into a Photoshop * > Background*. > > The DVD plays exactly the same in a player as it does on the computer =96 > some buttons showing up, others not. > > It would be nice if I could figure this out. I'd like to get some work > done today. At least I've reached a stage of, what, maturity? jadedness? > cynicism? that I stay relatively sane in these situations. > > Jonathan > > > On Oct 3, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Teddy Gage wrote: > > A computer is not a good testbed dvd player. Too many variables with the > software. What happens in an actual DVD player? And are you sure your men= us > are created using non-square pixels in PS? > On Oct 3, 2012 12:29 PM, "Jonathan Penzner" wrote: > >> Apologies for the off-topic, and for a Mac specific question as well, bu= t >> perhaps the brain trust can help me out. >> >> Working in DVDSPRO, ver 4 >> OS 10.6.8 >> Quicktime 7.6.6 >> MacPro Tower 3,1 and a MacBook Pro 8,3 >> DVD Player 5.4.2 >> >> Step 1 - I Create a menu in Photoshop. The text layers become buttons. >> Load the selections for the text layers. Save as an alpha channel. Rever= se >> the alpha. >> Step 2 - Save the flattened menu without the alpha in a 720 X 480 file. >> Save a separate flattened file of just the alpha. Also 720 X 480. >> Step 3 - In DVDSPRO, import both files. Set the menu as the background. >> Set the file with the alpha channel as the overlay. Drag to create the >> buttons in order, covering the areas of the text and the corresponding >> alpha channel. There is no overlap on the areas covered by the buttons. >> Step 4 - Import an M2V and audio file, drag to a track. Set the buttons >> to go to the track. Set the track to go back to the menu. >> Step 5 - Test in Simulator and everything works perfectly. I can step >> through the buttons, they all highlight correctly, displaying all the >> states of all the buttons: normal, selected, activated. >> >> Very simple stuff, and something I've been doing for ages. I don't think >> that I've anything different lately. >> >> The problem is, when I test the build in the DVD player, or, if I burn a >> disk and put it in a player, the buttons don't show up correctly. Some >> buttons do not highlight in the active or selected state, but play if y= ou >> hit enter on the keyboard if you can figure out which button you're on. = You >> can't select the unhighlighting buttons with a mouse. This has been >> happening on two computers =96 a tower and a laptop. >> >> On top of that =96 this is a side issue and not as crucial =96 the DVD P= layer >> on the tower sometimes forgets to put up the dialog box that asks whethe= r I >> want to start the DVD from Last Time Played or the Beginning of the Disk >> and jumps into where I was when I quit the Disk, in other words, opting = for >> Last Time Played. >> >> I've trashed Prefs for DVDSPRO and the Player, run AppleJack a few dozen >> times, repaired Disk Permissions for the Boot Drive, verified the disk = =96 >> nothing changes the behavior. >> >> If anyone has any experience with this, I would be thrilled to hear abou= t >> it, and, hopefully, what can be done to fix it. This is seriously killin= g >> my productivity. >> >> Many thanks in advance. >> >> Jonathan >> > > > > *JONATHAN PENZNER* > SUNDANCE/REALTIME > VIDEO EDITING =95 MOTION GRAPHICS =95 DESIGN > > | STUDIO 626 345-0285 | > | CELL 818 321-2890 | > > SUREAL@CHARTER.NET > > --f46d0401695107430f04cb2ae140 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

DVD authoring will try any man's patience and decency. C= ould be a problem with the overlay graphic itself? Other than that I'm = out of ideas. Been a while since I worked on DVDs.

On Oct 3, 2012 12:57 PM, "Jonathan Penzner&= quot; <sureal@charter.net> = wrote:
Thanks for the reply, Teddy.
=

To answer the last question first: I use a square pixel= file to create everything, then scale to 720 X 480 and flatten into a Phot= oshop Background.

The DVD plays exactly the same in a player as it does o= n the computer =96 some buttons showing up, others not.=A0

It would be nice if I could figure this out. I'd like to get s= ome work done today. At least I've reached a stage of, what, maturity? = jadedness? cynicism? that I stay relatively sane in these situations.=A0

Jonathan


On Oct 3, 20= 12, at 9:43 AM, Teddy Gage wrote:

A computer is not a good testbed dvd player. Too many variables wi= th the software. What happens in an actual DVD player? And are you sure you= r menus are created using non-square pixels in PS?

On Oct 3, 2012 12:29 PM, "Jonathan Penzner&= quot; <sureal@ch= arter.net> wrote:
Apologies for the off-topic, and f= or a Mac specific question as well, but perhaps the brain trust can help me= out.

Working in DVDSPRO, ver 4
OS 10.6.= 8
Quicktime 7.6.6
MacPro Tower 3,1 and a MacBook Pro 8,3
=
DVD Player 5.4.2

Step 1 - I Create a menu in = Photoshop. The text layers become buttons. Load the selections for the text= layers. Save as an alpha channel. Reverse the alpha.
Step 2 - Save the flattened menu without the alpha in a 720 X 480 file= . Save a separate flattened file of just the alpha. Also 720 X 480.
Step 3 - In DVDSPRO, import both files. Set the menu as the background. = Set the file with the alpha channel as the overlay. Drag to create the butt= ons in order, covering the areas of the text and the corresponding alpha ch= annel. There is no overlap on the areas covered by the buttons.
Step 4 - Import an M2V and audio file, drag to a track. Set the button= s to go to the track. Set the track to go back to the menu.
Step = 5 - Test in Simulator and everything works perfectly. I can step through th= e buttons, they all highlight correctly, displaying all the states of all t= he buttons: normal, selected, activated.

Very simple stuff, and something I've been doing fo= r ages. I don't think that I've anything different lately.

The problem is, when I test the build in the DVD player, o= r, if I burn a disk and put it in a player, the buttons don't show up c= orrectly. Some buttons do not highlight in the active or selected state, bu= t =A0play if you hit enter on the keyboard if you can figure out which butt= on you're on. You can't select the unhighlighting buttons with a mo= use. This has been happening on two computers =96 a tower and a laptop.

On top of that =96 this is a side issue and not as cruc= ial =96 the DVD Player on the tower sometimes forgets to put up the dialog = box that asks whether I want to start the DVD from Last Time Played or the = Beginning of the Disk and jumps into where I was when I quit the Disk, in o= ther words, opting for Last Time Played.

I've trashed Prefs for DVDSPRO and the Player, run = AppleJack a few dozen times, repaired Disk Permissions for the Boot Drive, = verified the disk =96 nothing changes the behavior.

If anyone has any experience with this, I would be thrilled to hear about i= t, and, hopefully, what can be done to fix it. This is seriously killing my= productivity.

Many thanks in advance.

Jonathan


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