Return-Path: Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.187] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4862487 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 21:32:09 +0200 Received: from Elliot-Steeles-iMac.local (p4FD37F43.dip.t-dialin.net [79.211.127.67]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MOVST-1TN3Tk24w9-006Net; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 21:34:05 +0200 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.20.0.090605 Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 21:33:51 +0200 Subject: Re: [AE] New to the list - question on rotoscoping From: Elliot Steele To: After List Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [AE] New to the list - question on rotoscoping Thread-Index: Ac2hngQk0IWSV2piEUaDw6hQgdi/JA== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3432144845_233939" X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:pPO6LsV+zq/LDioWCIifRlFa1IKVhaZXP+5JJ2r8xZr vA/S0tYOxctuOovSCqjaTidc+nRKcuKqztIqxfd47DgvM+3ROy qC2r5VEqdS8bNQhhysH71aJUZvESsnSgpkh6iPWPUFuWrbn70F E18MOyJgg+gYP/zL6y6ayAYrBs4xJCKNEq0BnSzhKNCrI4+CjL Xjv1FvKiznlf+7k5+4IKrnMkWXeO+ziAoBFcc8+7Brlq9VSztt RdE3zKcWoj48k5m803MwBN1zRnAQ5i+dggo81Lvei1IypA1UP6 6Uo+blTkW4jnr1lX2prjGayJwpBp/HHr8Xg6R6LZAmEu8e9FCW x1PvFT003GDYZzmk8giz+h4/CfUGdsaOlbVlkJ+de > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3432144845_233939 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I was thinking exactly the same thing Steve... There=B9s a very good chance that after the =B3auditions=B2 there=B9s no job left t= o be done. However, I don=B9t think many of the people on this list are so desperate for work that they would consider doing it for free. Elliot Am 10/3/12 9:29 PM schrieb "Steve Oakley" unter : >=20 > On Oct 3, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Sam Carter wrote: >=20 >> This is my first post on this list. If posting contract work is not >> appropriate, please ignore or delete this post and my apologies in advan= ce. >=20 > its perfectly fine to post about offering work. >=20 >> am looking for a contractor willing to audition for the job of rotoscopi= ng >> these videos to a satisfactory quality. For the audition, I will provid= e a >> single 15-second video. I ask that part of the video be rotoscoped and >> returned so the quality can be evaluated before contracting the job. >=20 > IMNHO this is pretty unacceptable. asking people to do work for free as a= n > "audition" ? hmmm... get 15 or 20 responses, send each person a different > clip. ...asking people to work for spec is wrong. good roto can take time > depending on the material and asking for that time for free is wrong in t= he > guise of an "audition". >=20 > there are plenty of qualified people on this list who can do a great job.= you > are dealing with some of the best in the biz. if you want to see samples= of > previous work ? sure. to do the work ? no. >=20 > S >=20 --B_3432144845_233939 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [AE] New to the list - question on rotoscoping I was thinking exactly the same thing Steve...

There’s a very good chance that after the “auditions” the= re’s no job left to be done.

However, I don’t think many of the people on this list are so despera= te for work that they would consider doing it for free.

Elliot


Am 10/3/12 9:29 PM schrieb "Steve Oakley" unter <steveo@practicali.com>:

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On Oct 3, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Sam Carter <sa= mckayak@gmail.com> wrote:

<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12pt'>This is my first post on this list.  If pos= ting contract work is not appropriate, please ignore or delete this post and= my apologies in advance.
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its perfectly fine to post about offering work.

<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12pt'>am looking for a contractor willing to audition = for the job of rotoscoping these videos to a satisfactory quality.  For= the audition, I will provide a single 15-second video.  I ask that par= t of the video be rotoscoped and returned so the quality can be evaluated be= fore contracting the job.
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IMNHO this is pretty unacceptable. asking people to do work for free as an = "audition" ? hmmm... get 15 or 20 responses, send each person a di= fferent clip. ...asking people to work for spec is wrong. good roto can take= time depending on the material and asking for that time for free is wrong i= n the guise of an "audition".

there are plenty of qualified people on this list who can do a great job. y= ou are dealing with some of the best in the biz.  if you want to see sa= mples of previous work ? sure. to do the work ? no.

S

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