Mailing List AE-List@media-motion.tv ? Message #45995
From: Jonathan Penzner <sureal@charter.net>
Subject: Re: [AE] OT Mac DVD Question
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 14:43:37 -0700
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Yes, I don't use the alpha in the overlay file, Jim. Strictly a flat file with no alpha. Using an alpha screws things up, for sure.

And one would think that if it plays correctly in the simulator it should work correctly elsewhere, like when you burn a disk. But that's not the case, unfortunately. It's not only baffling, but pretty frustrating too.

Have yet to reinstall. Been working in After Effects – blissfully, where everything works as expected. But I'll have to face the dreaded DVD monsters soon.

Thanks again to you, Jim, and all who have contributed. I really appreciate it.


Jonathan


On Oct 3, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Jim Curtis wrote:

Agree with this, but also, your Overlay shouldn't have or doesn't need an alpha channel (or at least, I've never done it that way).  I've just inverted and exported the alpha channel, resulting in a high-contrast black and white file.

But, it seems to me that if the Simulation is working, you may be OK with what you have.  Try Teddy's advice to play it in a regular DVD player.


On Oct 3, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Teddy Gage wrote:

A computer is not a good testbed dvd player. Too many variables with the software. What happens in an actual DVD player? And are you sure your menus are created using non-square pixels in PS?

On Oct 3, 2012 12:29 PM, "Jonathan Penzner" <sureal@charter.net> wrote:
Apologies for the off-topic, and for a Mac specific question as well, but perhaps the brain trust can help me out.

Working in DVDSPRO, ver 4
OS 10.6.8
Quicktime 7.6.6
MacPro Tower 3,1 and a MacBook Pro 8,3
DVD Player 5.4.2

Step 1 - I Create a menu in Photoshop. The text layers become buttons. Load the selections for the text layers. Save as an alpha channel. Reverse the alpha.
Step 2 - Save the flattened menu without the alpha in a 720 X 480 file. Save a separate flattened file of just the alpha. Also 720 X 480.
Step 3 - In DVDSPRO, import both files. Set the menu as the background. Set the file with the alpha channel as the overlay. Drag to create the buttons in order, covering the areas of the text and the corresponding alpha channel. There is no overlap on the areas covered by the buttons.
Step 4 - Import an M2V and audio file, drag to a track. Set the buttons to go to the track. Set the track to go back to the menu.
Step 5 - Test in Simulator and everything works perfectly. I can step through the buttons, they all highlight correctly, displaying all the states of all the buttons: normal, selected, activated.

Very simple stuff, and something I've been doing for ages. I don't think that I've anything different lately.

The problem is, when I test the build in the DVD player, or, if I burn a disk and put it in a player, the buttons don't show up correctly. Some buttons do not highlight in the active or selected state, but  play if you hit enter on the keyboard if you can figure out which button you're on. You can't select the unhighlighting buttons with a mouse. This has been happening on two computers – a tower and a laptop.

On top of that – this is a side issue and not as crucial – the DVD Player on the tower sometimes forgets to put up the dialog box that asks whether I want to start the DVD from Last Time Played or the Beginning of the Disk and jumps into where I was when I quit the Disk, in other words, opting for Last Time Played.

I've trashed Prefs for DVDSPRO and the Player, run AppleJack a few dozen times, repaired Disk Permissions for the Boot Drive, verified the disk – nothing changes the behavior.

If anyone has any experience with this, I would be thrilled to hear about it, and, hopefully, what can be done to fix it. This is seriously killing my productivity.

Many thanks in advance.

Jonathan


JONATHAN PENZNER
SUNDANCE/REALTIME
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JONATHAN PENZNER
SUNDANCE/REALTIME
VIDEO EDITING • MOTION GRAPHICS • DESIGN

| STUDIO 626 345-0285 |
| CELL 818 321-2890 |


 
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