Return-Path: Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com ([209.85.217.169] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4863571 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 01:47:15 +0200 Received: by mail-lb0-f169.google.com with SMTP id k6so788924lbo.28 for ; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 16:49:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=8CPg1w+BzVeNBYHNg01rQJoO8tBfkaSrnuZRj85JshY=; b=a5S+5u5NdR8SgfF2xScnBFYjLu4J/G8yfTnyslmvaFdt64GlXx7vzRoxvptKofuMla H33DGX1+LvvLR8to68J7g4HajhwxOPI99ySxasmlgwts9Kvd7xTTYuWEkx/KT9lKfeo8 0aLDrj4amR+qaNKJt/IvkIdRhXNdkCXeNRJT0XI80VY0mBUPAUPNv6QXvVdr2KX60DYh eVK6UIvQBbdrbodOXkdqS294iyx5cDd5c1lOa2KTtxfh4EgMmNv5BzW7PuttqwH2BpbH maFQ2+5ZapGEYscnpUhbq/YM9ciuhEI5Af7RG7JMNRRxW+ZG0UX7lBNdCjIthc1kFmhY 8egA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.106.15 with SMTP id gq15mr5421019lab.42.1349394554665; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 16:49:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.88.35 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 16:49:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.88.35 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 16:49:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 19:49:14 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] incorrect colors on output to client From: Teddy Gage To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0407115d17bb6404cb44675b --f46d0407115d17bb6404cb44675b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Also this. I was gonna mention that. But if they see the shift in fcp for final edit I guess it does matter. They can't just gamma shift it back? On Oct 4, 2012 7:46 PM, "Brian Maffitt" wrote: > Before you completely panic, I think you may be seeing a fairly well-know > Quicktime-on-Windows display bug. It only affects how the movie looks when > played in Quicktime, not when used in another application. Take a look at > the same clip in VLC and see if it looks OK. > > > Hey all, > > > > I'm running into some gamma issues or something, which I've never seen > before. > > > > I've previously had issue with the H.264 bug, where renders would come > out lighter, almost looking like their gamma was bumped up. I know what > that looks like and how to alleviate it. > > > > This however, is a completely different ball of yarn. > > > > Basically.. I can take a ProRes 422 HQ file from my client (who works on > a Mac) > > > > Import it into AE on my PC, make a new comp from the footage, and add it > to the render queue with Animation Codec at 100% - RGB - millions of > colors, premultiplied matted.. > > > > when I render.. the render turns out to be DARKER than the source > footage.. but only when viewed in QuickTime Player. > > > > If I bring that render back into AE and do an A/B on the footage vs the > source, they look identical.. .it's only when viewing in QT Player that > they look different. and apparently when editing in FCP as well. > > > > What's going on here? > > > > I thought it might be a bit-depth thing, but I've set all 3 settings in > project, and that changes nothing. I also tried some other codecs, > including some "Trillions of Colors" codecs, because I noticed that the > codec they provided source footage in said that in the project panel... > still no avail.. I even ticked and unticked the "match legacy gamma" option > in the project settings panel.. nothing doing.. > > > > Every piece of footage I send through AE looks darker when viewed > side-by-side in QT... > > > > This is the first time I've had this happen, and come to find out, ALL > of the FX shots I've done for this Indie film have this happening.. so now > I need to figure out how to change that, and also re-render abhout 40+ FX > shots, by tonight.. :\ > > > > any last minute help.....or shoves, would be greatly appreciated.. > > > > ///Greg Balint > > //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer > > /321.514.4839 > > delRAZOR.com/ > > > > On 10/4/2012 4:21 PM, Bruce Wainer wrote: > >> Hello all, > >> > >> For a school Telecommunications project I need several different After > Effects benchmark projects. For this I cannot use CUDA, as it is a cloud > computing project. Therefore I would like to shy away from anything using > the new CS6 render engine. My Google search brought up Brian Maffitt's > benchmark here: http://www.media-motion.tv/aebenchmarks.html, but I would > like some more projects to use. I do not have any serious need to compare > it to other systems, I'm going to use these as sample clients to prove our > system works. > >> > >> Thanks in advance, > >> Bruce Wainer > > > > > > +---End of message---+ > > To unsubscribe send any message to > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > --f46d0407115d17bb6404cb44675b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Also this. I was gonna mention that. But if they see the shi= ft in fcp for final edit I guess it does matter. They can't just gamma = shift it back?

On Oct 4, 2012 7:46 PM, "Brian Maffitt"= ; <brian@totaltraining.com> wrote:
Before you completely panic, I think you may be seeing a fairly well-know Q= uicktime-on-Windows display bug. It only affects how the movie looks when p= layed in Quicktime, not when used in another application. Take a look at th= e same clip in VLC and see if it looks OK.

> Hey all,
>
> I'm running into some gamma issues or something, which I've ne= ver seen before.
>
> I've previously had issue with the H.264 bug, where renders would = come out lighter, almost looking like their gamma was bumped up. I know wha= t that looks like and how to alleviate it.
>
> This however, is a completely different ball of yarn.
>
> Basically.. I can take a ProRes 422 HQ file from my client (who works = on a Mac)
>
> Import it into AE on my PC, make a new comp from the footage, and add = it to the render queue with Animation Codec at 100% - RGB - millions of col= ors, premultiplied matted..
>
> when I render.. the render turns out to be DARKER than the source foot= age.. but only when viewed in QuickTime Player.
>
> If I bring that render back into AE and do an A/B on the footage vs th= e source, they look identical.. .it's only when viewing in QT Player th= at they look different. and apparently when editing in FCP as well.
>
> What's going on here?
>
> I thought it might be a bit-depth thing, but I've set all 3 settin= gs in project, and that changes nothing. I also tried some other codecs, in= cluding some "Trillions of Colors" codecs, because I noticed that= the codec they provided source footage in said that in the project panel..= . still no avail.. I even ticked and unticked the "match legacy gamma&= quot; option in the project settings panel.. nothing doing..
>
> Every piece of footage I send through AE looks darker when viewed side= -by-side in QT...
>
> This is the first time I've had this happen, and come to find out,= ALL of the FX shots I've done for this Indie film have this happening.= . so now I need to figure out how to change that, and also re-render abhout= 40+ FX shots, by tonight.. :\
>
> any last minute help.....or shoves, would be greatly appreciated..
>
> ///Greg Balint
> //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
> /321.514.4839<= br> > delRAZOR.com/
>
> On 10/4/2012 4:21 PM, Bruce Wainer wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> For a school Telecommunications project I need several different A= fter Effects benchmark projects. For this I cannot use CUDA, as it is a clo= ud computing project. Therefore I would like to shy away from anything usin= g the new CS6 render engine. My Google search brought up Brian Maffitt'= s benchmark here: http://www.media-motion.tv/aebenchmarks.html, but I w= ould like some more projects to use. I do not have any serious need to comp= are it to other systems, I'm going to use these as sample clients to pr= ove our system works.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Bruce Wainer
>
>
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