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[77.249.19.212]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ay10sm12600766wib.2.2012.10.04.16.54.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 04 Oct 2012 16:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Gary Berendsen From: Gary Berendsen Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_4D5384F1-7FC2-4271-A0FB-21A84B42469D" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1486\)) Subject: Re: [AE] incorrect colors on output to client Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 01:54:54 +0200 References: To: "After Effects Mail List" In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1486) --Apple-Mail=_4D5384F1-7FC2-4271-A0FB-21A84B42469D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I've been haing that as well, since cs6, well 5.5 as well. prores non hq solved it for me. Gary Berendsen - VFX Generalist Czaar Peter Straat 157-159 1018 PJ Amsterdam garyberendsen.com gary@garyberendsen.com +31614385398 skype: garyberendsen On Oct 5, 2012, at 1:52 AM, Brian Maffitt = wrote: > I missed the detail about it showing up in the final edit. If that's = true, this is something else. >=20 > Brian >=20 >> Also this. I was gonna mention that. But if they see the shift in fcp = for final edit I guess it does matter. They can't just gamma shift it = back? >>=20 >> On Oct 4, 2012 7:46 PM, "Brian Maffitt" = wrote: >> Before you completely panic, I think you may be seeing a fairly = well-know Quicktime-on-Windows display bug. It only affects how the = movie looks when played in Quicktime, not when used in another = application. Take a look at the same clip in VLC and see if it looks OK. >>=20 >> > Hey all, >> > >> > I'm running into some gamma issues or something, which I've never = seen before. >> > >> > I've previously had issue with the H.264 bug, where renders would = come out lighter, almost looking like their gamma was bumped up. I know = what that looks like and how to alleviate it. >> > >> > This however, is a completely different ball of yarn. >> > >> > Basically.. I can take a ProRes 422 HQ file from my client (who = works on a Mac) >> > >> > Import it into AE on my PC, make a new comp from the footage, and = add it to the render queue with Animation Codec at 100% - RGB - millions = of colors, premultiplied matted.. >> > >> > when I render.. the render turns out to be DARKER than the source = footage.. but only when viewed in QuickTime Player. >> > >> > If I bring that render back into AE and do an A/B on the footage vs = the source, they look identical.. .it's only when viewing in QT Player = that they look different. and apparently when editing in FCP as well. >> > >> > What's going on here? >> > >> > I thought it might be a bit-depth thing, but I've set all 3 = settings in project, and that changes nothing. I also tried some other = codecs, including some "Trillions of Colors" codecs, because I noticed = that the codec they provided source footage in said that in the project = panel... still no avail.. I even ticked and unticked the "match legacy = gamma" option in the project settings panel.. nothing doing.. >> > >> > Every piece of footage I send through AE looks darker when viewed = side-by-side in QT... >> > >> > This is the first time I've had this happen, and come to find out, = ALL of the FX shots I've done for this Indie film have this happening.. = so now I need to figure out how to change that, and also re-render = abhout 40+ FX shots, by tonight.. :\ >> > >> > any last minute help.....or shoves, would be greatly appreciated.. >> > >> > ///Greg Balint >> > //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer >> > /321.514.4839 >> > delRAZOR.com/ >> > >> > On 10/4/2012 4:21 PM, Bruce Wainer wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> >> >> >> For a school Telecommunications project I need several different = After Effects benchmark projects. For this I cannot use CUDA, as it is a = cloud computing project. Therefore I would like to shy away from = anything using the new CS6 render engine. My Google search brought up = Brian Maffitt's benchmark here: = http://www.media-motion.tv/aebenchmarks.html, but I would like some more = projects to use. I do not have any serious need to compare it to other = systems, I'm going to use these as sample clients to prove our system = works. >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Bruce Wainer >> > >> > >> > +---End of message---+ >> > To unsubscribe send any message to >>=20 >>=20 >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >=20 --Apple-Mail=_4D5384F1-7FC2-4271-A0FB-21A84B42469D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 I've = been haing that as well, since cs6, well 5.5 as well.
prores non hq = solved it for me.


Czaar Peter Straat = 157-159
1018 PJ Amsterdam
gary@garyberendsen.com
skype: garyberendsen






On Oct 5, 2012, at 1:52 AM, Brian Maffitt <brian@totaltraining.com> = wrote:

I = missed the detail about it showing up in the final edit. If that's true, = this is something else.

Brian

Also this. I was gonna mention that. But if they see the = shift in fcp for final edit I guess it does matter. They can't just = gamma shift it back?

On Oct 4, 2012 7:46 PM, "Brian Maffitt" = <brian@totaltraining.com> = wrote:
Before you completely panic, I think you may be seeing a fairly = well-know Quicktime-on-Windows display bug. It only affects how the = movie looks when played in Quicktime, not when used in another = application. Take a look at the same clip in VLC and see if it looks = OK.

> Hey all,
>
> I'm running into some gamma issues or something, which I've never = seen before.
>
> I've previously had issue with the H.264 bug, where renders would = come out lighter, almost looking like their gamma was bumped up. I know = what that looks like and how to alleviate it.
>
> This however, is a completely different ball of yarn.
>
> Basically.. I can take a ProRes 422 HQ file from my client (who = works on a Mac)
>
> Import it into AE on my PC, make a new comp from the footage, and = add it to the render queue with Animation Codec at 100% - RGB - millions = of colors, premultiplied matted..
>
> when I render.. the render turns out to be DARKER than the source = footage.. but only when viewed in QuickTime Player.
>
> If I bring that render back into AE and do an A/B on the footage vs = the source, they look identical.. .it's only when viewing in QT Player = that they look different. and apparently when editing in FCP as = well.
>
> What's going on here?
>
> I thought it might be a bit-depth thing, but I've set all 3 = settings in project, and that changes nothing. I also tried some other = codecs, including some "Trillions of Colors" codecs, because I noticed = that the codec they provided source footage in said that in the project = panel... still no avail.. I even ticked and unticked the "match legacy = gamma" option in the project settings panel.. nothing doing..
>
> Every piece of footage I send through AE looks darker when viewed = side-by-side in QT...
>
> This is the first time I've had this happen, and come to find out, = ALL of the FX shots I've done for this Indie film have this happening.. = so now I need to figure out how to change that, and also re-render = abhout 40+ FX shots, by tonight.. :\
>
> any last minute help.....or shoves, would be greatly = appreciated..
>
> ///Greg Balint
> //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
> /321.514.4839
> delRAZOR.com/
>
> On 10/4/2012 4:21 PM, Bruce Wainer wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> For a school Telecommunications project I need several = different After Effects benchmark projects. For this I cannot use CUDA, = as it is a cloud computing project. Therefore I would like to shy away = from anything using the new CS6 render engine. My Google search brought = up Brian Maffitt's benchmark here: http://www.media-motion.tv/aebenchmarks.html, but = I would like some more projects to use. I do not have any serious need = to compare it to other systems, I'm going to use these as sample clients = to prove our system works.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Bruce Wainer
>
>
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