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Subject: Re: [AE] incorrect colors on output to client
From: Darren H <dow.hanson@gmail.com>
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Hi Greg,

The only difference is bit rate. HQ gives better quality at bigger file
sizes, though in some cases where I've compared frames, I've struggled to
see the difference. They're both 10bit.

D.

On Friday, 5 October 2012, Greg Balint wrote:

>
> Can anyone, off hand, tell me what the diffs are between HQ and non-HQ?
>
>
> ///Greg Balint
> //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
> /321.514.4839
> delRAZOR.com/
>
> On 10/4/2012 7:54 PM, Gary Berendsen wrote:
>
> I've been haing that as well, since cs6, well 5.5 as well.
> prores non hq solved it for me.
>
>
>    *Gary Berendsen - VFX Generalist*
> *Czaar Peter Straat 157-159*
> *1018 PJ Amsterdam*
> *garyberendsen.com*
> *gary@garyberendsen.com*
> *+31614385398*
> *skype: garyberendsen*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  On Oct 5, 2012, at 1:52 AM, Brian Maffitt <brian@totaltraining.com>
> wrote:
>
>  I missed the detail about it showing up in the final edit. If that's
> true, this is something else.
>
>  Brian
>
>  Also this. I was gonna mention that. But if they see the shift in fcp
> for final edit I guess it does matter. They can't just gamma shift it back?
> On Oct 4, 2012 7:46 PM, "Brian Maffitt" <brian@totaltraining.com> wrote:
>
> Before you completely panic, I think you may be seeing a fairly well-know
> Quicktime-on-Windows display bug. It only affects how the movie looks when
> played in Quicktime, not when used in another application. Take a look at
> the same clip in VLC and see if it looks OK.
>
> > Hey all,
> >
> > I'm running into some gamma issues or something, which I've never seen
> before.
> >
> > I've previously had issue with the H.264 bug, where renders would come
> out lighter, almost looking like their gamma was bumped up. I know what
> that looks like and how to alleviate it.
> >
> > This however, is a completely different ball of yarn.
> >
> > Basically.. I can take a ProRes 422 HQ file from my client (who wo
>
>

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Hi Greg,<div><br></div><div>The only difference is bit rate. HQ gives bette=
r quality at bigger file sizes, though in some cases where I&#39;ve compare=
d frames, I&#39;ve struggled to see the difference. They&#39;re both 10bit.=
=A0<span></span></div>
<div><br></div><div>D.=A0<br><br>On Friday, 5 October 2012, Greg Balint  wr=
ote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border=
-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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    <div dir=3D"ltr"><br><font><span style=3D"line-height:normal;background=
-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Can anyone, off hand, tell me what the diffs ar=
e between HQ and non-HQ?</span></font><br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <pre cols=3D"72">///Greg Balint
//Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
/321.514.4839
delRAZOR.com/ </pre>
      On 10/4/2012 7:54 PM, Gary Berendsen wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      I&#39;ve been haing that as well, since cs6, well 5.5 as well.
      <div>prores non hq solved it for me.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div><br>
        <div>
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                  <div style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:12px;color:rgb(40,23,1=
36)"><b>Gary Berendsen - VFX
                      Generalist</b></div>
                  <div style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:12px;color:rgb(40,23,1=
36)"><b>Czaar Peter Straat 157-159</b></div>
                  <div style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:12px;color:rgb(40,23,1=
36)"><b>1018 PJ Amsterdam</b></div>
                  <div style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:12px;color:rgb(40,23,1=
36)"><b><a href=3D"http://garyberendsen.com" target=3D"_blank">garyberendse=
n.com</a></b></div>
                  <div style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:12px;color:rgb(40,23,1=
36)"><b><a>gary@garyberendsen.com</a></b></div>
                  <div style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:12px;color:rgb(40,23,1=
36)"><b>+31614385398</b></div>
                  <div style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:12px;color:rgb(40,23,1=
36)"><b>skype: garyberendsen</b></div>
                </div>
                <br>
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              <br>
            </div>
            <br>
          </div>
          <br>
          <br>
        </div>
        <br>
        <div>
          <div>On Oct 5, 2012, at 1:52 AM, Brian Maffitt &lt;<a>brian@total=
training.com</a>&gt;
            wrote:</div>
          <br>
          <blockquote type=3D"cite">
           =20
            <div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">I missed the
              detail about it showing up in the final edit. If that&#39;s
              true, this is something else.
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Brian</div>
              <div>
                <div><br>
                  <blockquote type=3D"cite">
                    <p dir=3D"ltr">Also this. I was gonna mention that.
                      But if they see the shift in fcp for final edit I
                      guess it does matter. They can&#39;t just gamma shift
                      it back?</p>
                    <div>On Oct 4, 2012 7:46 PM,
                      &quot;Brian Maffitt&quot; &lt;<a>brian@totaltraining.=
com</a>&gt;
                      wrote:<br type=3D"attribution">
                      <blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                        Before you completely panic, I think you may be
                        seeing a fairly well-know Quicktime-on-Windows
                        display bug. It only affects how the movie looks
                        when played in Quicktime, not when used in
                        another application. Take a look at the same
                        clip in VLC and see if it looks OK.<br>
                        <br>
                        &gt; Hey all,<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt; I&#39;m running into some gamma issues or
                        something, which I&#39;ve never seen before.<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt; I&#39;ve previously had issue with the H.264
                        bug, where renders would come out lighter,
                        almost looking like their gamma was bumped up. I
                        know what that looks like and how to alleviate
                        it.<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt; This however, is a completely different
                        ball of yarn.<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt; Basically.. I can take a ProRes 422 HQ file
                        from my client (who wo</blockquote></div></blockquo=
te></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div>

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