From: "Chris Zwar" <chris@chriszwar.com>
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 22:43:01 +0000
Subject: Re:  [AE] Tracking point suggestions for CRTs
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Wow, I can't remember the last time I had to deal with CRTs!!

I used to use Optics Compensation to give the source graphics a nice fish=
bowl effect, faster to adjust than bezier warp (although a lot less flexi=
ble)

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Meyer [mailto:chris@crishdesign.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 08:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [AE] Tracking point suggestions for CRTs

I'll second what Nathan said: I've used mocha with these shots, and the B=
ezier Warp effect to curve the new display to match. Make sure Bezier War=
p is above Corner Pin in the ECP stack. And if you want to get good scree=
n reflections and shows, if possible place a flat 50% graphic on the moni=
tors during the shoot, then use a mode such as Overlay or Hard Light to c=
omposite your new screen over the monitor face.

good luck -
Chris


On Oct 22, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Nathan Shipley wrote:

> I've stopped putting markers on almost everything I do like this (which=
 most commonly seems to be iPhone screen tracking) and have good success =
with Mocha.  The markers end up just creating extra work when you need to=
 paint them out to keep the original reflections.  If the surface is very=
 reflective and/or has no border/frame around it, I'd do a test first, bu=
t you're generally safe with Mocha and no markers.
> 
> Should be able to just warp/bulge your replacement screens a little bit=
 in AE to get them to match the CRT curvature -- especially with original=
 reflections laid back on top which will help the replacements feel curve=
d.
> 
> - Nathan
> 
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Stephen van Vuuren <stephen@sv2studios=
.com> wrote:
> Getting ready to shoot a short with a decent amount of screen replaceme=
nts. Almost all are old school CRTs with small to medium curvature on the=
 glass. I was the reflection of the lighting etc. on the monitor to be pa=
rt of the final composite.
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> 
> Do you think with improvements to trackers that points are needed and i=
f so, is a very thin cross (to minimize filling in the reflection map) go=
od enough? Much of the lighting will be low key or night lighting. Will b=
e shoot with C300.
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> Probably will be using AE and/or AE Mocha=92s trackers. No hand held =96=
 all dolly/jib and occasionally lockoff.
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> 
> stephen van vuuren
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> 336.202.4777
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> http://www.insaturnsrings.com/
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> http://www.sv2dcp.com/
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> http://www.sv2studios.com/
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> 
> A film is =96 or should be =96 more like music than like fiction. It sh=
ould be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=92s behind t=
he emotion, the meaning, all that comes later.
> 
> =96Stanley Kubrick
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