Return-Path: Received: from mail-ob0-f169.google.com ([209.85.214.169] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4887684 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 21:12:55 +0100 Received: by mail-ob0-f169.google.com with SMTP id va7so2661024obc.28 for ; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:15:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=j0V/901aZ+iQzRudlWclHMa+ZZo+OMJHpYRRIHX4r/o=; b=jF0UTdWr/4B2teGxLc3N5NMOeg0zWPr4vjpmZKhn3voHyHI8SRSgN06LY2WmlVgMr/ 1x1aFFn9TiYdiRf3dgp/5ae4yaf83BnGgbJIpmWX3ug1NVO/mGPcLiALAxkozDRnWtGH ueX4+TEEQWnfJjNGZt33ZuMEGvynUF1WhvKk1sMLeQO/CIJu/1XXvvsH6TkxC/ujaoGt bB6PmA3+hs6gpBskG35ruUs6A+l58xOzl161Rqpg/M1sJznhr6xLnljABq2igcQ406ys Xq7CZBMTV+QzMK6/sx/wtKzDZlm5yKwV4n2JsoQZPrHPrQYVcUrE+GqDqN2cDleNisGw w97w== Received: by 10.60.14.6 with SMTP id l6mr35184327oec.87.1351800946160; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:15:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.76.153.137 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:15:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Robert Kjettrup Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 21:15:26 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] tap shift comp nav popup bug? To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb2011233f43104cd74af25 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnPbvIVlRZDSJLFhyq7VNquSRLMrBffULKIqBa0UuXqjEmLt80oA6sAf8QP1mWbeJ9QrjXm --e89a8fb2011233f43104cd74af25 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 When i saw your tip, i was happy that there was a solution for this that i hadn't thought about trying.... But then i tried, and it didn't work. And have just now checked again, and here the tab-shift doesn't register when AE is sorting cache (yes, the desatuated green indicators turning green) Maybe it is a Windows/OSX different behaviour? - Robert 2012/11/1 Nathan Shipley > That's interesting -- 11.0.1 here (just realized I'm behind on a dot > update) on OSX 10.6.8 -- It actually seems to behave differently on this > setup than what you're seeing. The current frame is rendered and > displaying just fine, but I see the cache bar doing it's sorting thing > (desaturated green bar turning into more saturated green) and enabling caps > lock works for me to bring up the flowchart while this is in progress. > Perhaps that changed in 11.0.2? Or it may be different on OSX as well. > > - N > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Robert Kjettrup wrote: > >> Hi Nathan >> >> Thanks for the tip about Caps Lock. >> I can see this works in cases where AE doesn't respond to the shift-tab >> because it is rendering the current frame, but caps lock doesn't solve the >> problem with AE not registering the shift-tab if it is sorting the cache on >> long comps. I still get no response if caps lock is pressed and AE is >> sorting cache. CS6 (11.0.2), windows 7 >> >> ...on the topic of caps lock... it would be nice if AE would stop >> rendering immediately when the caps lock was pressed, and not like it is >> now where it seems like AE want to finish rendering the layer it is >> rendering when the caps lock is pressed. It can be quite annoying when >> working in renderheavy projects. But i guess i should give this as a >> feature request to Adobe instead of ranting here ;-) >> >> - Robert >> >> >> 2012/11/1 Todd Kopriva >> >>> Good idea, Nathan. I'll add that solution to the blog post that I have >>> about this issue. >>> >>> >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On >>> > Behalf Of Nathan Shipley >>> > Sent: 01November2012 12:01 >>> > To: After Effects Mail List >>> > Subject: Re: [AE] tap shift comp nav popup bug? >>> > >>> > Quick follow up on this / work-around I've gotten used to using: As >>> > Robert mentioned, it's not really working for me to not see the cache >>> > indicators. I also prefer not to have to click on mini-flowchart >>> > button in the timeline window. So if I'm in a project where shift- >>> > tapping doesn't bring up the flowchart, I just press Caps Lock first, >>> > then shift, use the flowchart, then tap caps lock off. The flowchart >>> > comes up right away when Caps Lock is enabled and this is quicker for >>> > me than clicking on the button in the timeline window. >>> > >>> > May be helpful for some -- >>> > - Nathan >>> > >>> > On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Roland Kahlenberg (RoRK) >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > The top left of the Comp Panel provides a clickable, hierarchical >>> > structure of related comps. It provides the same functionality that you >>> > want, with the tap-shift routine. And it doesn't get in the way of a >>> > Timeline Panel's cached indicators. >>> > >>> > HTH >>> > - Roland Kahlenberg >>> > Intensive mocha & AE Training in Singapore and Other Dangerous >>> > Locations >>> > Imagineer Systems (mocha) Certified Instructor & Adobe After >>> > Effects ACE/ACI (version 7) >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: "scott.aelist" >>> > To: "After Effects Mail List" >>> > Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 10:39:33 AM >>> > Subject: [AE] tap shift comp nav popup bug? >>> > >>> > I've noticed I'm having a lot of trouble getting the 'tap shift >>> > key' >>> > to bring up the comp navigator popup recently. Sometimes i have >>> > to hit >>> > shift multiple times and it still won't work. Both at home and >>> > working >>> > on-site at other workstations. Has anyone else had this issue? >>> > CS6 >>> > >>> > >>> > +---End of message---+ >>> > To unsubscribe send any message to >>> > >>> > +---End of message---+ >>> > To unsubscribe send any message to >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>> >> >> > --e89a8fb2011233f43104cd74af25 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When i saw your tip, i was happy that there was a solution for this that i = hadn't thought about trying....=A0
But then i tried, and it didn= 9;t work. And have just now checked again, and here the tab-shift doesn'= ;t register when AE is sorting cache (yes, the desatuated green indicators = turning green)

Maybe it is= a Windows/OSX different behaviour?


- Robert=A0


2012/11/1 Nathan Shipley <nshipley@gma= il.com>
That's interesting -- 11.0.1 here (just realized I'm behind on a do= t update) on OSX 10.6.8 -- It actually seems to behave differently on this = setup than what you're seeing. =A0The current frame is rendered and dis= playing just fine, but I see the cache bar doing it's sorting thing (de= saturated green bar turning into more saturated green) and enabling caps lo= ck works for me to bring up the flowchart while this is in progress. Perhap= s that changed in 11.0.2? =A0Or it may be different on OSX as well.

- N

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at= 1:53 PM, Robert Kjettrup <robert@stvmayday.dk> wrote:
=
Hi Nathan

Thanks for the tip about Caps Lock.=A0
I can see this works in cases where AE doesn't respond to the shift-= tab because it is rendering the current frame, but caps lock doesn't so= lve the problem with AE not registering the shift-tab if it is sorting the = cache on long comps. I still get no response if caps lock is pressed and AE= is sorting cache. CS6 (11.0.2), windows 7

...on the topic of caps lock... it would be nice if AE = would stop rendering=A0immediately when the caps lock was pressed, and not = like it is now where it seems like AE want to finish rendering the layer it= is rendering when the caps lock is pressed. It can be quite annoying when = working in renderheavy projects. But i guess i should give this as a featur= e request to Adobe instead of ranting here ;-)

- Robert


2012/11/1 Todd Kopriva <kopri= va@adobe.com>
Good idea, Nathan. I'll add that solution to the blog = post that I have about this issue.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On
> Behalf Of Nathan Shipley
> Sent: 01November2012 12:01
> To: After Effects Mail List
> Subject: Re: [AE] tap shift comp nav popup bug?
>
> Quick follow up on this / work-around I've gotten used to using: = =A0As
> Robert mentioned, it's not really working for me to not see the ca= che
> indicators. =A0I also prefer not to have to click on mini-flowchart > button in the timeline window. =A0So if I'm in a project where shi= ft-
> tapping doesn't bring up the flowchart, I just press Caps Lock fir= st,
> then shift, use the flowchart, then tap caps lock off. =A0The flowchar= t
> comes up right away when Caps Lock is enabled and this is quicker for<= br> > me than clicking on the button in the timeline window.
>
> May be helpful for some --
> - Nathan
>
> On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Roland Kahlenberg (RoRK)
> <= aemaillist@broadcastgems.com> wrote:
>
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 The top left of the Comp Panel provides a clickable, hiera= rchical
> structure of related comps. It provides the same functionality that yo= u
> want, with the tap-shift routine. And it doesn't get in the way of= a
> Timeline Panel's cached indicators.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 HTH
> =A0 =A0 =A0 - Roland Kahlenberg
> =A0 =A0 =A0 Intensive mocha & AE Training in Singapore and Other D= angerous
> Locations
> =A0 =A0 =A0 Imagineer Systems (mocha) Certified Instructor & Adobe= After
> Effects ACE/ACI (version 7)
>
>
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 ----- Original Message -----
> =A0 =A0 =A0 From: "scott.aelist" <scott.aelist@gmail.com>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media-motion.tv&= gt;
> =A0 =A0 =A0 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 10:39:33 AM
> =A0 =A0 =A0 Subject: [AE] tap shift comp nav popup bug?
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 I've noticed I'm having a lot of trouble getting t= he 'tap shift
> key'
> =A0 =A0 =A0 to bring up the comp navigator popup recently. Sometimes i= have
> to hit
> =A0 =A0 =A0 shift multiple times and it still won't work. Both at = home and
> working
> =A0 =A0 =A0 on-site at other workstations. Has anyone else had this is= sue?
> CS6
>
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