Return-Path: Received: from mail-ob0-f169.google.com ([209.85.214.169] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4894412 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 17:57:52 +0100 Received: by mail-ob0-f169.google.com with SMTP id va7so2671953obc.28 for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 09:00:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=aA0oxrPs6YgIbJp14gwg5yOD+PJloP6gvPfsAc+9Ygw=; b=yWKu3/zDdNPlR3pKha+hg4oShL4YMdyRHouI9O/ZHU/sNL1fD86oXH9aol7BTEy9Gn 3eDQedG49ZS9x31ioDkHSKG5H5IxvyAOQcOouDlJ0pDQE/XHscJ+XTphS2EJqSdzeHBW d39gy4Ykiel40Dncm/hCd86wZ25MkMz2hzy2B9xSiOo8D/8H0a3cSfrINbMybuvhKE4u 0T774vmitaJd6G9+1feCarcYio9BSWMMDHTF+KzZ7ooJs5FdpDXxRjcmxD628htaKBek kkwfCDrmm7BtJvpR3C/naUxddrOtnE/foVIoinqWGCzznhX3eWblCRCcdKqD6+gY/Kif wX2w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.13.198 with SMTP id j6mr5463420oec.51.1352394056516; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 09:00:56 -0800 (PST) Sender: richatloopcorp@gmail.com Received: by 10.60.14.3 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:00:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 17:00:56 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cTM4hYC_oirj7WrEVmnqQPgzUIc Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Electric Image is alive! From: Richard Green To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8ff253d255c38504cdfec715 --e89a8ff253d255c38504cdfec715 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 And here's where everyone (Tim S?) chimes in about spending $7000 on it before the price dropped to $2500 for the Broadcast edition! Back then it could only render phong - I remember raytracing being a big announcement, forget GI! I don't think the images were misleading, the rendering was great for it's time. Certainly Paul S was a master but you can't blame them for putting the good stuff on their galleries. The new owner is another master user of EI, a Brazilian guy, I forget the name but he's a bit of a genius. I'd love to see it work out for him. But that John Knoll quote on the new site is a bit misleading, the days of him rendering the Star Wars reissue in EI are long gone. I don't think it'll see much use on Ep 7! I'm likewise on C4D, mainly rendering in Maxwell which surprises and delights me every time I hit render. --- Cheers Rich www.loopcorp.com On 8 November 2012 16:45, Jack Tunnicliffe wrote: > Tim: > > You and I must have bought EI the same month. LOL. Sounds exactly like > what we went through. We, too are on C4D these days. > > Jack Tunnicliffe > Java Post Production > www.javapost.ca > > > > On Nov 8, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Tim Thiessen wrote: > > Don't get me started - I bought EI 2.9.2 back in the day for $2500, 6 > months later they dropped the price to $200 (or so) and when they wanted me > to upgrade to v3.0 they had the nerve to ask for a $400 upgrade fee. Their > marketing material were misleading in my option (they featured work by Paul > Schbiteroff sp? - and there is no way I was getting that type of reflection > or look out EI anytime soon) I switched to cinema 4d and vowed to never > give another cent to EI. Of course I deserve some if not all of the blame > for my purchase - I didn't try out the software (it was 1999 and > downloading a whole program to try out was still a new idea) and I went > against the advice of a friend who suggested C4D. > > Sorry for the rant > Timt > > iPhone > > On Nov 8, 2012, at 6:10 AM, Jim Kanter wrote: > > EIAS has just released v9. > http://www.eias3d.com/ > > > --e89a8ff253d255c38504cdfec715 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And here's where everyone (Tim S?) chimes in about spending $7000 on it= =A0before the price dropped to $2500 for the Broadcast edition!=A0Back then= it could only render phong - I remember raytracing being a big announcemen= t, forget GI! =A0I don't think the images were misleading, the renderin= g was great for it's time. Certainly Paul S was a master but you can= 9;t blame them for putting the good stuff on their galleries. The new owner= is another master user of EI, a Brazilian guy, I forget the name but he= 9;s a bit of a genius. I'd love to see it work out for him.
But that John Knoll quote on the new site is a bit misleading, the days of = him rendering the Star Wars reissue in EI are long gone. I don't think = it'll see much use on Ep 7!
I'm likewise on C4D, mainly r= endering in Maxwell which surprises and delights me every time I hit render= .

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Cheers
Rich



On 8 November 2012 1= 6:45, Jack Tunnicliffe <jack@javapost.ca> wrote:
Tim:
You and I must have bought EI the same month. LOL. Sounds e= xactly like what we went through. We, too are on C4D these days.

Jack Tunnicliffe
Java Post Production
www.javapost.ca



On Nov 8, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Tim Thiessen <pixelbot@comcast.net> wro= te:

Don= 9;t get me started - I bought EI 2.9.2 back in the day for $2500, 6 months = later they dropped the price to $200 (or so) and when they wanted me to upg= rade to v3.0 they had the nerve to ask for a $400 upgrade fee. Their market= ing material were misleading in my option (they featured work by Paul Schbi= teroff sp? - and there is no way I was getting that type of reflection or l= ook out EI anytime soon) I switched to cinema 4d and vowed to never give an= other cent to EI. Of course I deserve some if not all of the blame for my p= urchase - I didn't try out the software (it was 1999 and downloading a = whole program to try out was still a new idea) and I went against the advic= e of a friend who suggested C4D.

Sorry for the rant
Timt

iPhone

On Nov 8, 2012, at 6:10 AM, Jim Kanter <jim@d-film.com> wrote:

EIAS has =A0just released v9.


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