Return-Path: Received: from mta11.charter.net ([216.33.127.80] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4895353 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 21:30:55 +0100 Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20121109203402.SSDW6169.mta11.charter.net@imp11> for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 15:34:02 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.3] ([71.94.133.66]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id MYa11k00M1S6qBK05Ya1XG; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 15:34:02 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=Agrl9JAs5+GZar64di+3zu8XOh97iO5Qaqn/xe6For4= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=Vx6aIzdhH7H4BIXK4xUDUQ==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=ZX_TQXinu6RYmsfh_gsA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=RFaxJ1YKWH0A:10 a=p3b_eOXHgIUA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=jV_DHXX7L54-ptYuJ-sA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=4aNU7IVQVtxS1yLl:21 a=Vx6aIzdhH7H4BIXK4xUDUQ==:117 From: Jonathan Penzner Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-27-523886434 Subject: AE / FCP Audio Sync Discrepancy Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:34:01 -0800 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) --Apple-Mail-27-523886434 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Greetings to all. I'm assisting on a film and the audio round trip to Pro Tools isn't = syncing. I'm hoping someone has some insight into the problem. Which is: The film is 24 fps. Audio 48k 16 bit out. 48k 24 bit back. To isolate the problem, we created 3, 5 and 7 minute clips. Each clip = begins with a standard Cinema Tools countdown with a one frame beep at = the 2. Following the countdown is black with a time code. After the = allotted time of the clip, there's another 1 frame 2 with a one frame = beep. We sent this off to the sound designer who, in Pro Tools, matched the = beeps in his set up, then sent the audio file back. When I line up the files we sent with the files he sent in After = Effects, they match perfectly. In FCP, however, they're out of sync =96 In the 3 minute clip, the sound guy's beep sounds 5 frames before the = beep at the end In the 5 minute clip, the sound guy's beep sounds 8 frames before the = beep at the end. In the 7 minute clip, the sound guy's beep sounds 11 frames before the = beep at the end. Not only that, but the waveform appears visually in the right place in = the timeline of the 5 and 7 minute clips, while the actual audio sounds = 8 and 11 frames earlier, as noted above. Does anyone have a clue what can be done to fix this problem? We can't = sync the film until we resolve this issue. Many thanks in advance. On our end: FCP 7.0.3 QT 7.6.6 Pro AE 11.0.0.378 iMac 10.7.4 Jonathan JONATHAN PENZNER SUNDANCE/REALTIME VIDEO EDITING =95 MOTION GRAPHICS =95 DESIGN | STUDIO 626 345-0285 | | CELL 818 321-2890 | SUREAL@CHARTER.NET --Apple-Mail-27-523886434 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252
Greetings to all.

I'm = assisting on a film and the audio round trip to Pro Tools isn't syncing. = I'm hoping someone has some insight into the problem. Which = is:

The film is 24 fps. Audio 48k 16 bit out. = 48k 24 bit back.
To isolate the problem, we created 3, 5 = and 7 minute clips. Each clip begins with a standard Cinema Tools = countdown with a one frame beep at the 2. Following the countdown is = black with a time code. After the allotted time of the clip, there's = another 1 frame 2 with a one frame beep.
We sent this off to = the sound designer who, in Pro Tools, matched the beeps in his set up, = then sent the audio file back.

When I line up = the files we sent with the files he sent in After Effects, they match = perfectly.

In FCP, however, they're out of sync = =96
In the 3 minute clip, the sound guy's beep sounds 5 = frames before the beep at the end
In the 5 minute = clip,  the sound guy's  beep sounds 8 frames = before the beep at the end.
In the 7 minute = clip,  the sound guy's  beep sounds 11 frames = before the beep at the end.
Not only that, but the = waveform appears visually in the right place in the timeline of the 5 = and 7 minute clips, while the actual audio sounds 8 and 11 frames = earlier, as noted above.

Does anyone have a = clue what can be done to fix this problem? We can't sync the film until = we resolve this issue.

Many thanks in = advance.

On our end:
FCP = 7.0.3
QT 7.6.6 Pro
AE 11.0.0.378
iMac = 10.7.4


Jonathan




JONATHAN = PENZNER
VIDEO EDITING =95 MOTION GRAPHICS =95 = DESIGN
| STUDIO 626 = 345-0285  CELL = 818 = 321-2890 SUREAL@CHARTER.NET

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