Return-Path: Received: from gateway16.websitewelcome.com ([69.56.185.3] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4897312 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:19:14 +0100 Received: by gateway16.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 5007) id 593A7666C2B6D; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:22:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from gator1184.hostgator.com (gator1184.hostgator.com [174.121.151.98]) by gateway16.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB42666C2B45 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:22:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from [24.163.5.74] (port=53960 helo=Neptune) by gator1184.hostgator.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TY2Og-0003rT-C7 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:22:27 -0600 Reply-To: From: "Stephen van Vuuren" To: "'After Effects Mail List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [AE] Semi OT: Yet another mac mini render farm thread Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:22:18 -0500 Organization: SV2 Studios Message-ID: <012c01cdc124$2ea26330$8be72990$@sv2studios.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_012D_01CDC0FA.45CD6CA0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-index: AQICDTHkghc+pmg2Vn5wiiFdmABWzJd+LJag Content-Language: en-us X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator1184.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - sv2studios.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: (Neptune) [24.163.5.74]:53960 X-Source-Auth: stephen@sv2studios.com X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: c3RlcGhlbnY7c3RlcGhlbnY7Z2F0b3IxMTg0Lmhvc3RnYXRvci5jb20= This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_012D_01CDC0FA.45CD6CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Don't go off on me - I said SIGNIFICANT storage, as in to the nearest TB, not a little cache and startup drive, which should obviously be SSD. Apple price, SSD, fastest i7 and 16GB RAM $1499. If money is no concern for say 10 to 20 boxes, that is convenient and minis are cute. But at those prices, the same render speed can be had for well under 50% of the price, maybe even close 1/3rd of the price. Over 10 to 20 boxes, that is a huge amount. Someone should do a detailed study benchmark, but I'm pretty convinced this a terrible ROI for AE rendering. You can get a OC'd Sandy-Bridge E system that will smoke that box for several hundred dollars less than that. If we were talking 20% price or performance difference, I can see that justifying a premium. But from the starving IMAX filmmaker perspective, that is just spending a lot of money for lesser performance. stephen van vuuren 336.202.4777 http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ http://www.sv2dcp.com/ http://www.sv2studios.com/ A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later. ------=_NextPart_000_012D_01CDC0FA.45CD6CA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> Don't go off on me - I said SIGNIFICANT storage, as in to = the nearest TB, not a little cache and startup drive, which should = obviously be SSD. Apple price, SSD, fastest i7 and 16GB RAM $1499.

 

If money is no concern for say 10 to 20 boxes, that is convenient and = minis are cute. But at those prices, the same render speed can be had = for well under 50% of the price, maybe even close 1/3rd of = the price. Over 10 to 20 boxes, that is a huge = amount.


Someone should do a detailed study benchmark, but I’m = pretty convinced this a terrible ROI for AE rendering. You can get a = OC’d Sandy-Bridge E system that will smoke that box for several = hundred dollars less than that.

 

If we were talking 20% price or performance difference, I can see = that justifying a premium. But from the starving IMAX filmmaker = perspective, that is just spending a lot of money for lesser = performance.

 

stephen van vuuren

336.202.4777

 

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A film is – or should be – more like music than like = fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, = what’s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes = later.

 

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