Return-Path: Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.195] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4897369 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:50:34 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.107] (rrcs-24-43-70-42.west.biz.rr.com [24.43.70.42]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MSdBs-1Thpxk0gmS-00SHWk; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:53:45 -0500 User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.4.120824 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:53:41 -0800 Subject: Re: [AE] Semi OT: Yet another mac mini render farm thread From: Tony Romain To: AE list Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [AE] Semi OT: Yet another mac mini render farm thread In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3435576825_1611220" X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:cVVWwIXqk2c7IO5FFhimHfLiBvaDO56CbcgWfvTBAIP iTU7zDxdOx5BVMvk6SP1V43PrFuh2XPP/Nlnt2nX49d/Pq+/T7 CqD3C4VEPO9r/3Fy6OHwpWwILLNJG3GfUi0yqo3ghwsmeB+xUm MwbVPsoNkHVfUMrCKxcReyCfOVGpnP2GmL9hKbC3jUMtMqIjmm rfFPKEzNoXnIzY0wioFHw0X4MvTgjoYrMswCbn9M82vNzpUCD8 YNkpnowT20ur5VdoQ0idQ74+iAOGmM4ue2lDkQ6LYyFoLhRvIx ZuI93v1dCpXbB0rDdnf0OCh3LW/f5VkrobFxHxdGwmF2lI50gK Z22kU37i0t6FfTrA6T6rwOt27NBEWZK08gWuuxnHSibCvrci6j /YHe9OGDcJIpQ== > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3435576825_1611220 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I would agree, that for AE rendering it may be a different story=8A a lot more network push-pull/cache/etc. But for C4D which is primarily processor intensive once the farm has served up the file, it gets a bit more attractive=8A also taking into account tim's point of maintenance/troubleshooting on a barebones PC that uses parts pulled together on the basis of keeping the cost significantly cheaper than the mac mini equivalent. The mac mini will work great right out of the box And yes, to what dann said=8A the net render server would probably be better not running on a mac mini=8A would probably run that off of a mac pro tower --=20 tony romain | principal/creative director trance motion graphic animation and design 323 651 1114 www.trancedesigns.com From: Tim Sassoon Reply-To: AE list Date: Monday, November 12, 2012 2:30 PM To: AE list Subject: Re: [AE] Semi OT: Yet another mac mini render farm thread Could be. Your numbers will vary. OTOH, for a person not willing to spend the TIME (which for most people is billable) putting together a bunch of white boxes, one at least knows it will work, and that you're going to be getting a lot of that money back afterwards. Whatever you think of Apple (and I have numerous bones to pick), it's very easy to set them up and keep them running, and they have high residual value. How much would I be paying a sysadmin to keep a bunch of white boxes running? Probably $75K/year. That's a lot of money to me. Tim Sassoon SFD Santa Monica, CA On Nov 12, 2012, at 2:22 PM, "Stephen van Vuuren" wrote: > I=B9m pretty convinced this a terrible ROI for AE rendering --B_3435576825_1611220 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
I would agree, tha= t for AE rendering it may be a different story…  a lot more netwo= rk push-pull/cache/etc.

But for C4D which is primar= ily processor intensive once the farm has served up the file, it gets a bit = more attractive…  also taking into account tim's point of mainten= ance/troubleshooting on a barebones PC that uses parts pulled together on th= e basis of keeping the cost significantly cheaper than the mac mini equivale= nt.  The mac mini will work great right out of the box

And yes, to what dann said… the net render server would proba= bly be better not running on a mac mini…  would probably run that= off of a mac pro tower



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tony romain | = principal/creative director

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trance
motion graphic animation and design
323 651 1114
www.trancedesigns.com

From: Tim Sassoon <tsassoon@aol.com>
Rep= ly-To: AE list <AE-List@= media-motion.tv>
Date: Mond= ay, November 12, 2012 2:30 PM
To: = AE list <AE-List@media-motion.tv= >
Subject: Re: [AE] Semi OT= : Yet another mac mini render farm thread

Could= be. Your numbers will vary. OTOH, for a person not willing to spend the TIM= E (which for most people is billable) putting together a bunch of white boxe= s, one at least knows it will work, and that you're going to be getting a lo= t of that money back afterwards. Whatever you think of Apple (and I have num= erous bones to pick), it's very easy to set them up and keep them running, a= nd they have high residual value. How much would I be paying a sysadmin to k= eep a bunch of white boxes running? Probably $75K/year. That's a lot of mone= y to me.


Tim Sassoon
SFD
Santa Monica, CA
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On Nov 12, 2012, at 2:22 PM, "Stephen van Vuuren" <stephen@sv2studios.com> wrote:

I’m pretty convinced this a terrible ROI fo= r AE rendering

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