Return-Path: Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.195] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4909920 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 16:42:33 +0100 Received: from mbp-17.westell.com (50-55-11-251.waus.wi.frontiernet.net [50.55.11.251]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M9sNk-1TWkbD0yDI-00Bi1Y; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 10:46:13 -0500 From: Steve Oakley Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_953C35CD-36E4-42CA-B451-04B14B17A4B0" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: [AE] 32core AMD build Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 09:46:10 -0600 References: To: "After Effects Mail List" In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:N8SDcIxjYtapy52efJCTcvj/SauCfYqnuVYjRruEt4e 7i4jwdpJ268pkFcIbLn6HyX3E96SF7rdlsOt2WNAGislnYym/Y CnzGqgSICesOAL2UTzlN2TIlUbxJsp/7s2gQNetHSPkeGNeibY GcSE6233gF9t/ueZKTR5Z1S3CBQNL25li6IXOjSdI8xEsVZO5X 1IEvzor2z4zb/IUL+UdqFa889VCA04dxHxXpQWdfZVsZHX73pg vHvcEU3mtvMAryGMvMbvvftGkeB61B9RO3fxDUt/iYXJ6gF8XD KxgEFI0DvTc8NxGtYcSAtMwOiEOQ5wRT3dwXSh/f4dmVoceT88 fEMhye6g8nr2CCczBB3mAYluE2h5O33N2Ro++memmIggPucc6t Ef84/hO3RZD3Q== --Apple-Mail=_953C35CD-36E4-42CA-B451-04B14B17A4B0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Nov 27, 2012, at 9:26 AM, rendernyc wrote: > also, for AE raytracing you are currently limited to 2GB per card max.=20= not quite.. you are limited to the least amount of ram on all your = cards. example, you have a card with 4gb and one with 2gb, the limit = will be 2gb because of the smaller card. S >=20 > Im not sure id buy a card that took 3 slots but i guess that depends = on your mobo layout >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:15 AM, lsslss wrote: > will do! >=20 > thx Evan and Teddy. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Met vriendelijke groet/kind regards, >=20 > =20 >=20 > Marcel van Berk >=20 > =20 >=20 > Hoge Bomen/LSSLSS >=20 > Doctor Zamenhofstraat 2 >=20 > 3061 SH Rotterdam >=20 > The Netherlands >=20 > 06 485 605 58 >=20 > =20 >=20 > info@lsslss.nl >=20 > =20 >=20 > www.lsslss.nl >=20 > =20 >=20 > Van: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] Namens = Teddy Gage > Verzonden: dinsdag 27 november 2012 16:13 >=20 >=20 > Aan: After Effects Mail List > Onderwerp: Re: [AE] 32core AMD build >=20 > =20 >=20 > Definitely the 4gb. You can over clock in software >=20 > On Nov 27, 2012 8:25 AM, "lsslss" wrote: >=20 > One more question on the kepler 6xx cards, for my 32core build, which = is in the process of being build. >=20 > =20 >=20 > What should I choose, >=20 > ASUS GTX680-DC2T-2GD5 >=20 > with overclocked speed to 1201MHz, but only 2GB GDDR5 >=20 > taking in 3 slots on the MoBo. >=20 > =20 >=20 > or >=20 > =20 >=20 > ASUS GTX680-DC2-4GD5 > with a clock speed of 1058MHz, but with 4 GB GDDR5 >=20 > taking in 2 slots on the MoBo. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Both have 1536 CUDA cores, >=20 > =20 >=20 > So the question is, more speed or more memory, for a Geforce card. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Or is there something else to consider? >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > THX ! >=20 > =20 >=20 > (Any requests for benchmarks, which should I use? I'll probably be = able to start using it next week) >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > kind regards, >=20 > Marcel van Berk >=20 > Hoge Bomen/LSSLSS >=20 > info@lsslss.nl >=20 > =20 >=20 > www.lsslss.nl >=20 > =20 >=20 > Van: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] Namens = Evan Fotis > Verzonden: dinsdag 20 november 2012 14:53 > Aan: After Effects Mail List > Onderwerp: Re: [AE] 32core AMD build >=20 > =20 >=20 > kepler 6xx cards also support 4 displays each as opposed to just 2 for = all previous models. >=20 > On 20-Nov-12 15:17, lsslss wrote: >=20 > Only the 550's and 560's are still available. Not really any 580 or = 590. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Will have go into the 6XX. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Is there a good list for Cuda info on the divers cards? >=20 > =20 >=20 > kind regards, >=20 > =20 >=20 > Marcel van Berk >=20 > =20 >=20 > LSSLSS >=20 > info@lsslss.nl >=20 > =20 >=20 > www.lsslss.nl >=20 > =20 >=20 > Van: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] Namens = rendernyc > Verzonden: maandag 19 november 2012 16:10 > Aan: After Effects Mail List > Onderwerp: Re: [AE] 32core AMD build >=20 > =20 >=20 > they are still selling the 580s online here in the US... u sure they = arent available? >=20 > =20 >=20 > if not you can go with a couple 6XX which have the benefit of using = less power than the 5XXs >=20 > =20 >=20 > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 7:40 AM, lsslss wrote: >=20 > hi List, >=20 > =20 >=20 > thanks for the comments, I'll update my choice of videocard. >=20 > What card does have the most CUDA's at the moment? >=20 > And which one has the best price/cuda ratio? >=20 > =20 >=20 > I know that the 500 series is quite nice, but they are not for sale = anymore. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Will keep you posted on the build. >=20 > Should be done in approx 10 days. >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > kind regards, >=20 > =20 >=20 > Marcel van Berk >=20 > LSSLSS >=20 > =20 >=20 > info@lsslss.nl >=20 > =20 >=20 > www.lsslss.nl >=20 > =20 >=20 > Van: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] Namens = Carey Dissmore > Verzonden: vrijdag 16 november 2012 15:58 > Aan: After Effects Mail List > Onderwerp: Re: [AE] 32core AMD build >=20 > =20 >=20 > I look forward to seeing some benchmarks. >=20 > A great, large well-cooled case alternative would be the Cooler Master = Cosmos II.=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > And while the Noctua is a good cooler you may want to consider a pair = of Corsair H100 or H80's if you don't have space for the two rads. They = are pretty quiet and easy to install, given the right case. Closed loop = liquid cooling like this is no muss no fuss. >=20 > =20 >=20 > carey >=20 > =20 >=20 > On Nov 16, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Greg Balint wrote: >=20 > =20 >=20 > This is largely a warning, but i just wanted to get this out there = since I saw it was on your list.=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > Unless you already have the HAF X case, I'm going to give you this = slight warning about it.=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > The case is super nice and there's tons of room inside, but I ran into = a huge issue when building that I've read a lot of people have.=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > Basically the 6 sides of the case aren't completely square in a lot of = the builds. This doesn't hurt much of the build, the motherboard seats = fine and all of that, but what it did affect is my video card = mounting/seating. Because the connection to the motherboard is on one = plane, and the rear of the card is supposed to be perpendicular but was = slightly off, they wouldn't line up properly. If i wanted to screw the = video card into the rear slot area, it would unseat the card from the = PCIe connection some. Ever so slightly mind you, but enough that it = caused some issues and I kept having to check what the heck was going = on. Eventually I settled for the rear of the card being a bit = offset/angled inside of the rear slot area. It's not horrible, but it's = not perfectly aligned.=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > I bought mine a year ago with this issue and people had issues with it = for months beforehand. It may be sorted out now, but just a word of = caution. if you're a perfectionist, this may get under your skin. >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > ////Greg Balint > ///Art Director / Motion Graphic Designer > delRAZOR.com/ >=20 > =20 >=20 > On Friday, November 16, 2012 at 6:17 AM, lsslss wrote: >=20 > hi List, >=20 > =20 >=20 > I am planning on building a 32core machine next week. >=20 > =20 >=20 > It's going to be a : >=20 > Supermicro H8DG-6-F AMD server >=20 > AMD Opteron Interlagos 6272 (2x) >=20 > Kingston KTD-PE316K4/32GB kit (2x) >=20 > =20 >=20 > Coolermaster HAF X tower case >=20 > Antec True Power Quattro 1200 EC >=20 > Noctua NH-U9DO A3 Cpu Cooler (2x) >=20 > =20 >=20 > Intel SSD 520 series 180GB (2x) >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > I still have 2x Quadro FX 4800 cards, that will go in. >=20 > And some other stuff, like BluRay burner etc. >=20 > =20 >=20 > I'm planning on running Windows 7 Pro 64bit (that will allow for up to = 192 Gb of Ram) >=20 > =20 >=20 > It's mainly for Adobe Master CS6 (AE, AME, PR), Cinema4d and for = creating DCPs. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Is there anything that I should think of, before ordering the build ? >=20 > =20 >=20 > Thx a lot ! >=20 > =20 >=20 > kind regards, >=20 > =20 >=20 > Marcel van Berk >=20 > =20 >=20 > Hoge Bomen/LSSLSS >=20 > =20 >=20 > info@lsslss.nl >=20 > =20 >=20 > www.lsslss.nl >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > --=20 > danny princz >=20 > exposedideas.com >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > danny princz >=20 > exposedideas.com --Apple-Mail=_953C35CD-36E4-42CA-B451-04B14B17A4B0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 rendernyc@gmail.com> = wrote:
also, for AE raytracing you = are currently limited to 2GB per card = max. 

not quite..  you = are limited to the least amount of ram on all your cards. example, you = have a card with 4gb and one with 2gb, the limit will be 2gb because of = the smaller = card.

S



Im not sure id buy a card that took 3 slots but i = guess that depends on your mobo layout


On Tue, Nov 27, = 2012 at 10:15 AM, lsslss <info@lsslss.nl> wrote:

will do!

thx Evan and Teddy.

 

Met vriendelijke groet/kind = regards,

 

Marcel van Berk

 

Hoge = Bomen/LSSLSS

Doctor Zamenhofstraat 2

3061 SH Rotterdam

The Netherlands

06 485 605 58

 

info@lsslss.nl

 

www.lsslss.nl

 

Van: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] Namens Teddy = Gage
Verzonden: dinsdag 27 november 2012 16:13


Aan: After Effects Mail = List
Onderwerp: Re: [AE] 32core AMD = build

 

Definitely the 4gb. You = can over clock in software

On= Nov 27, 2012 8:25 AM, "lsslss" <info@lsslss.nl> wrote:

One more question on the kepler 6xx cards, for my = 32core build, which is in the process of being = build.

 

What should I choose,

ASUS GTX680-DC2T-2GD5

with overclocked speed to 1201MHz, but only 2GB = GDDR5

taking in 3 slots on the = MoBo.

 

or

 

ASUS = GTX680-DC2-4GD5

with a clock speed of 1058MHz, but with 4 GB = GDDR5

taking in 2 slots on the = MoBo.

 

Both have 1536 CUDA cores, =

 

So the question is, more speed or more memory, for = a Geforce card.

 

Or is there something else to = consider?

 

 

THX !

 

(Any requests for benchmarks, which should I use? = I'll probably be able to start using it next = week)

 

 

kind regards,

Marcel van Berk

Hoge Bomen/LSSLSS

info@lsslss.nl

 

www.lsslss.nl

 

Van: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] Namens Evan = Fotis
Verzonden: dinsdag 20 november 2012 14:53
Aan: After = Effects Mail List
Onderwerp: Re: [AE] 32core AMD = build

 

kepler 6xx cards also support 4 displays each as opposed to just 2 for = all previous models.

On = 20-Nov-12 15:17, lsslss wrote:

Only the 550's and 560's are still available. Not = really any 580 or 590.

 

Will have go into the = 6XX.

 

Is there a good list for Cuda info on the divers = cards?

 

kind regards,

 

Marcel van Berk

 

LSSLSS

info@lsslss.nl

 

www.lsslss.nl

 

Van: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] Namens = rendernyc
Verzonden: maandag 19 november 2012 16:10
Aan: After = Effects Mail List
Onderwerp: Re: [AE] 32core AMD = build

 

they are still selling the 580s online here in the US... u sure they = arent available?

 

if not you can go with a couple 6XX which have the = benefit of using less power than the 5XXs

 

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 7:40 AM, lsslss <info@lsslss.nl> = wrote:

hi List,

 

thanks for the comments, I'll update my choice of = videocard.

What card does have the most CUDA's at the = moment?

And which one has the best price/cuda = ratio?

 

I know that the 500 series is quite nice, but they = are not for sale anymore.

 

Will keep you posted on the = build.

Should be done in approx 10 = days.

 

 

 

kind regards,

 

Marcel van Berk

LSSLSS

 

info@lsslss.nl

 

www.lsslss.nl

 

Van: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] Namens Carey = Dissmore
Verzonden: vrijdag 16 november 2012 15:58
Aan: After = Effects Mail List
Onderwerp: Re: [AE] 32core AMD = build

 

I = look forward to seeing some benchmarks.

A great, large well-cooled case alternative would be = the Cooler Master Cosmos II. 

 

And while the = Noctua is a good cooler you may want to consider a pair of Corsair H100 = or H80's if you don't have space for the two rads. They are pretty quiet = and easy to install, given the right case. Closed loop liquid cooling = like this is no muss no fuss.

 

carey

 

On Nov 16, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Greg Balint <greg@delrazor.com> wrote:

 

This is largely a warning, but i just wanted to get = this out there since I saw it was on your = list. 

 

Unless you already have the HAF X case, I'm going to = give you this slight warning about it.  =

 

The case is = super nice and there's tons of room inside, but I ran into a huge issue = when building that I've read a lot of people = have. 

 

Basically the 6 sides of the case aren't completely = square in a lot of the builds. This doesn't hurt much of the build, the = motherboard seats fine and all of that, but what it did affect is my = video card mounting/seating.  Because the connection to the = motherboard is on one plane, and the rear of the card is supposed to be = perpendicular but was slightly off, they wouldn't line up properly. If i = wanted to screw the video card into the rear slot area, it would unseat = the card from the PCIe connection some. Ever so slightly mind you, but = enough that it caused some issues and I kept having to check what the = heck was going on. Eventually I settled for the rear of the card being a = bit offset/angled inside of the rear slot area. It's not horrible, but = it's not perfectly aligned. 

 

I bought mine a year ago with this issue and people = had issues with it for months beforehand. It may be sorted out now, but = just a word of caution. if you're a perfectionist, this may get under = your skin.

 

 

 

////Greg Balint
///Art Director / Motion Graphic = Designer
delRAZOR.com/

 

On Friday, November 16, 2012 at 6:17 AM, lsslss = wrote:

hi List,

 

I am planning on building a = 32core machine next week.

 

It's going to be a = :

Supermicro H8DG-6-F AMD server

AMD Opteron = Interlagos 6272 (2x)

Kingston KTD-PE316K4/32GB kit = (2x)

 

Coolermaster HAF X tower = case

Antec True Power Quattro 1200 EC =

Noctua NH-U9DO A3 = Cpu Cooler (2x)

 

Intel SSD 520 series 180GB = (2x)

 

 

I still have 2x Quadro FX 4800 = cards, that will go in.

And some other = stuff, like BluRay burner etc.

 

I'm planning on running Windows 7 Pro 64bit (that = will allow for up to 192 Gb of = Ram)

 

It's mainly for Adobe Master = CS6 (AE, AME, PR), Cinema4d and for creating = DCPs.

 

Is there = anything that I should think of, before ordering the build = ?

 

Thx a lot = !

 

kind = regards,

 

Marcel van = Berk

 

Hoge = Bomen/LSSLSS

 

 

 

=

 

 



 

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exposedideas.com

 

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