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[108.29.120.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20sm9412190qek.6.2012.11.27.07.59.30 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 27 Nov 2012 07:59:30 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Maffitt Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_DEED9B69-6AEC-46F3-90A3-BC08CB7B8294" Message-Id: <48D93C35-833E-4078-AF8F-CB65418176A1@totaltraining.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: [AE] 32core AMD build Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 10:59:29 -0500 References: To: "After Effects Mail List" In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlIZ7gswCzOyhn4+s390vec/4Y9i1jkppAvoC860kOcSKLyL6QEFao+K7E5VCET+XE0w76e/AyJ1MTI9Cwlo6NsN6j56xGsag7LE/4fnLvKFThnEhIrZVkSE2EG7q4Lttoo4yYkTOy0XXrKoQyA4t4sgZs8KxkMPY/qX+WokuT0JvNLpzA= --Apple-Mail=_DEED9B69-6AEC-46F3-90A3-BC08CB7B8294 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Well, hm. This contradicts what I've been told, so I am eager to hear a = definitive answer. > im pretty sure that even if you have just a 4gb card the raytracer = will only be able to use 2GB >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Steve Oakley = wrote: >=20 > On Nov 27, 2012, at 9:26 AM, rendernyc wrote: >> also, for AE raytracing you are currently limited to 2GB per card = max.=20 >=20 > not quite.. you are limited to the least amount of ram on all your = cards. example, you have a card with 4gb and one with 2gb, the limit = will be 2gb because of the smaller card. >=20 > S >=20 >=20 >>=20 >> Im not sure id buy a card that took 3 slots but i guess that depends = on your mobo layout >>=20 >>=20 >> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:15 AM, lsslss wrote: >> will do! >>=20 >> thx Evan and Teddy. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Met vriendelijke groet/kind regards, >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Marcel van Berk >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Hoge Bomen/LSSLSS >>=20 >> Doctor Zamenhofstraat 2 >>=20 >> 3061 SH Rotterdam >>=20 >> The Netherlands >>=20 >> 06 485 605 58 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> info@lsslss.nl >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> www.lsslss.nl >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Van: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] Namens = Teddy Gage >> Verzonden: dinsdag 27 november 2012 16:13 >>=20 >>=20 >> Aan: After Effects Mail List >> Onderwerp: Re: [AE] 32core AMD build >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Definitely the 4gb. You can over clock in software >>=20 >> On Nov 27, 2012 8:25 AM, "lsslss" wrote: >>=20 >> One more question on the kepler 6xx cards, for my 32core build, which = is in the process of being build. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> What should I choose, >>=20 >> ASUS GTX680-DC2T-2GD5 >>=20 >> with overclocked speed to 1201MHz, but only 2GB GDDR5 >>=20 >> taking in 3 slots on the MoBo. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> or >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> ASUS GTX680-DC2-4GD5 >> with a clock speed of 1058MHz, but with 4 GB GDDR5 >>=20 >> taking in 2 slots on the MoBo. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Both have 1536 CUDA cores, >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> So the question is, more speed or more memory, for a Geforce card. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Or is there something else to consider? >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> THX ! >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> (Any requests for benchmarks, which should I use? I'll probably be = able to start using it next week) >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> kind regards, >>=20 >> Marcel van Berk >>=20 >> Hoge Bomen/LSSLSS >>=20 >> info@lsslss.nl >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> www.lsslss.nl >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Van: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] Namens = Evan Fotis >> Verzonden: dinsdag 20 november 2012 14:53 >> Aan: After Effects Mail List >> Onderwerp: Re: [AE] 32core AMD build >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> kepler 6xx cards also support 4 displays each as opposed to just 2 = for all previous models. >>=20 >> On 20-Nov-12 15:17, lsslss wrote: >>=20 >> Only the 550's and 560's are still available. Not really any 580 or = 590. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Will have go into the 6XX. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Is there a good list for Cuda info on the divers cards? >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> kind regards, >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Marcel van Berk >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> LSSLSS >>=20 >> info@lsslss.nl >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> www.lsslss.nl >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Van: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] Namens = rendernyc >> Verzonden: maandag 19 november 2012 16:10 >> Aan: After Effects Mail List >> Onderwerp: Re: [AE] 32core AMD build >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> they are still selling the 580s online here in the US... u sure they = arent available? >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> if not you can go with a couple 6XX which have the benefit of using = less power than the 5XXs >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 7:40 AM, lsslss wrote: >>=20 >> hi List, >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> thanks for the comments, I'll update my choice of videocard. >>=20 >> What card does have the most CUDA's at the moment? >>=20 >> And which one has the best price/cuda ratio? >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> I know that the 500 series is quite nice, but they are not for sale = anymore. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Will keep you posted on the build. >>=20 >> Should be done in approx 10 days. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> kind regards, >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Marcel van Berk >>=20 >> LSSLSS >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> info@lsslss.nl >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> www.lsslss.nl >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Van: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] Namens = Carey Dissmore >> Verzonden: vrijdag 16 november 2012 15:58 >> Aan: After Effects Mail List >> Onderwerp: Re: [AE] 32core AMD build >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> I look forward to seeing some benchmarks. >>=20 >> A great, large well-cooled case alternative would be the Cooler = Master Cosmos II.=20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> And while the Noctua is a good cooler you may want to consider a pair = of Corsair H100 or H80's if you don't have space for the two rads. They = are pretty quiet and easy to install, given the right case. Closed loop = liquid cooling like this is no muss no fuss. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> carey >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> On Nov 16, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Greg Balint wrote: >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> This is largely a warning, but i just wanted to get this out there = since I saw it was on your list.=20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Unless you already have the HAF X case, I'm going to give you this = slight warning about it.=20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> The case is super nice and there's tons of room inside, but I ran = into a huge issue when building that I've read a lot of people have.=20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Basically the 6 sides of the case aren't completely square in a lot = of the builds. This doesn't hurt much of the build, the motherboard = seats fine and all of that, but what it did affect is my video card = mounting/seating. Because the connection to the motherboard is on one = plane, and the rear of the card is supposed to be perpendicular but was = slightly off, they wouldn't line up properly. If i wanted to screw the = video card into the rear slot area, it would unseat the card from the = PCIe connection some. Ever so slightly mind you, but enough that it = caused some issues and I kept having to check what the heck was going = on. Eventually I settled for the rear of the card being a bit = offset/angled inside of the rear slot area. It's not horrible, but it's = not perfectly aligned.=20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> I bought mine a year ago with this issue and people had issues with = it for months beforehand. It may be sorted out now, but just a word of = caution. if you're a perfectionist, this may get under your skin. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> ////Greg Balint >> ///Art Director / Motion Graphic Designer >> delRAZOR.com/ >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> On Friday, November 16, 2012 at 6:17 AM, lsslss wrote: >>=20 >> hi List, >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> I am planning on building a 32core machine next week. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> It's going to be a : >>=20 >> Supermicro H8DG-6-F AMD server >>=20 >> AMD Opteron Interlagos 6272 (2x) >>=20 >> Kingston KTD-PE316K4/32GB kit (2x) >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Coolermaster HAF X tower case >>=20 >> Antec True Power Quattro 1200 EC >>=20 >> Noctua NH-U9DO A3 Cpu Cooler (2x) >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Intel SSD 520 series 180GB (2x) >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> I still have 2x Quadro FX 4800 cards, that will go in. >>=20 >> And some other stuff, like BluRay burner etc. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> I'm planning on running Windows 7 Pro 64bit (that will allow for up = to 192 Gb of Ram) >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> It's mainly for Adobe Master CS6 (AE, AME, PR), Cinema4d and for = creating DCPs. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Is there anything that I should think of, before ordering the build ? >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Thx a lot ! >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> kind regards, >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Marcel van Berk >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Hoge Bomen/LSSLSS >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> info@lsslss.nl >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> www.lsslss.nl >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> danny princz >>=20 >> exposedideas.com >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> danny princz >>=20 >> exposedideas.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > danny princz >=20 > exposedideas.com --Apple-Mail=_DEED9B69-6AEC-46F3-90A3-BC08CB7B8294 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
im pretty = sure that even if you have just a 4gb card the raytracer will only be = able to use 2GB


On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Steve Oakley = <steveo@practicali.com> wrote:

On Nov = 27, 2012, at 9:26 AM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> wrote:
also, for AE raytracing you are = currently limited to 2GB per card = max. 

not quite..  you = are limited to the least amount of ram on all your cards. example, you = have a card with 4gb and one with 2gb, the limit will be 2gb because of = the smaller card.

S



Im not sure id buy a card that took 3 slots but i = guess that depends on your mobo layout


On Tue, Nov 27, = 2012 at 10:15 AM, lsslss <info@lsslss.nl> wrote:

will do!

thx Evan and Teddy.

 

Met vriendelijke groet/kind = regards,

 

Marcel van Berk

 

Hoge = Bomen/LSSLSS

Doctor Zamenhofstraat 2

3061 SH Rotterdam

The Netherlands

06 485 605 58

 

info@lsslss.nl

 

www.lsslss.nl

 

Van: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] Namens Teddy = Gage
Verzonden: dinsdag 27 november 2012 = 16:13


Aan: After Effects Mail = List
Onderwerp: Re: [AE] 32core AMD = build

=  

Definitely the 4gb. You can over clock in = software

On Nov 27, 2012 = 8:25 AM, "lsslss" <info@lsslss.nl> wrote:

One more question on the kepler 6xx cards, for my = 32core build, which is in the process of being = build.

 

What should I choose,

ASUS GTX680-DC2T-2GD5

with overclocked speed to 1201MHz, but only 2GB = GDDR5

taking in 3 slots on the = MoBo.

 

or

 

ASUS = GTX680-DC2-4GD5

with a clock speed of 1058MHz, but with 4 GB = GDDR5

taking in 2 slots on the = MoBo.

 

Both have 1536 CUDA cores, =

 

So the question is, more speed or more memory, for = a Geforce card.

 

Or is there something else to = consider?

 

 

THX !

 

(Any requests for benchmarks, which should I use? = I'll probably be able to start using it next = week)

 

 

kind regards,

Marcel van Berk

Hoge Bomen/LSSLSS

info@lsslss.nl

 

www.lsslss.nl

 

Van: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] Namens Evan = Fotis
Verzonden: dinsdag 20 november 2012 14:53
Aan: After = Effects Mail List
Onderwerp: Re: [AE] 32core AMD = build

 

kepler 6xx cards also support 4 displays each as opposed to just 2 for = all previous models.

On = 20-Nov-12 15:17, lsslss wrote:

Only the 550's and 560's are still available. Not = really any 580 or 590.

 

Will have go into the = 6XX.

 

Is there a good list for Cuda info on the divers = cards?

 

kind regards,

 

Marcel van Berk

 

LSSLSS

info@lsslss.nl

 

www.lsslss.nl

 

Van: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] Namens = rendernyc
Verzonden: maandag 19 november 2012 16:10
Aan: After = Effects Mail List
Onderwerp: Re: [AE] 32core AMD = build

 

they are still selling the 580s online here in the US... u sure they = arent available?

 

if not you can go with a couple 6XX which have the = benefit of using less power than the 5XXs

 

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 7:40 AM, lsslss <info@lsslss.nl> = wrote:

hi List,

 

thanks for the comments, I'll update my choice of = videocard.

What card does have the most CUDA's at the = moment?

And which one has the best price/cuda = ratio?

 

I know that the 500 series is quite nice, but they = are not for sale anymore.

 

Will keep you posted on the = build.

Should be done in approx 10 = days.

 

 

 

kind regards,

 

Marcel van Berk

LSSLSS

 

info@lsslss.nl

 

www.lsslss.nl

 

Van: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] Namens Carey = Dissmore
Verzonden: vrijdag 16 november 2012 15:58
Aan: After = Effects Mail List
Onderwerp: Re: [AE] 32core AMD = build

 

I look forward to seeing some benchmarks.

A great, large well-cooled case alternative would be = the Cooler Master Cosmos II. 

 

And while the = Noctua is a good cooler you may want to consider a pair of Corsair H100 = or H80's if you don't have space for the two rads. They are pretty quiet = and easy to install, given the right case. Closed loop liquid cooling = like this is no muss no fuss.

 

carey

 

On Nov 16, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Greg Balint <greg@delrazor.com> wrote:

 

This is largely a warning, but i just wanted to get = this out there since I saw it was on your = list. 

 

Unless you already have the HAF X case, I'm going to = give you this slight warning about it.  =

 

The case is = super nice and there's tons of room inside, but I ran into a huge issue = when building that I've read a lot of people = have. 

 

Basically the 6 sides of the case aren't completely = square in a lot of the builds. This doesn't hurt much of the build, the = motherboard seats fine and all of that, but what it did affect is my = video card mounting/seating.  Because the connection to the = motherboard is on one plane, and the rear of the card is supposed to be = perpendicular but was slightly off, they wouldn't line up properly. If i = wanted to screw the video card into the rear slot area, it would unseat = the card from the PCIe connection some. Ever so slightly mind you, but = enough that it caused some issues and I kept having to check what the = heck was going on. Eventually I settled for the rear of the card being a = bit offset/angled inside of the rear slot area. It's not horrible, but = it's not perfectly aligned. 

 

I bought mine a year ago with this issue and people = had issues with it for months beforehand. It may be sorted out now, but = just a word of caution. if you're a perfectionist, this may get under = your skin.

 

 

 

////Greg Balint
///Art Director / Motion Graphic = Designer
delRAZOR.com/

 

On Friday, November 16, 2012 at 6:17 AM, lsslss = wrote:

hi List,

 

I am planning on building a = 32core machine next week.

 

It's going to be a = :

Supermicro H8DG-6-F AMD server

AMD Opteron = Interlagos 6272 (2x)

Kingston KTD-PE316K4/32GB kit = (2x)

 

Coolermaster HAF X tower = case

Antec True Power Quattro 1200 EC =

Noctua NH-U9DO A3 = Cpu Cooler (2x)

 

Intel SSD 520 series 180GB = (2x)

 

 

I still have 2x Quadro FX 4800 = cards, that will go in.

And some other = stuff, like BluRay burner etc.

 

I'm planning on running Windows 7 Pro 64bit (that = will allow for up to 192 Gb of = Ram)

 

It's mainly for Adobe Master = CS6 (AE, AME, PR), Cinema4d and for creating = DCPs.

 

Is there = anything that I should think of, before ordering the build = ?

 

Thx a lot = !

 

kind = regards,

 

Marcel van = Berk

 

Hoge = Bomen/LSSLSS

 

 

 

=

 

 



 

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