Return-Path: Received: from mail-vb0-f41.google.com ([209.85.212.41] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4909986 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:24:34 +0100 Received: by mail-vb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id v13so12122521vbk.28 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:28:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=HGfORigTMqIGZfUxUU6XQGDTFkphcXrmZuG7jgtvFa8=; b=VI3hF+17AQ086AHNG+93UxdT39MUcrdJIvOb1Lz+peg/nLBvK2qDbyAdsm3CjLO+aK /qFdu62Zen8SyHdsINSDOUiWRCKYbbd045ZJTjdF6T4sVSJqyzIMxAhov7CQIn1CTXq7 WiDWRtd5h0M3aLXpib7bHSn5yqp9RI9NQKaSxTYwM7kWhjPBAQOJp/EGQmwf5szNdJ6I vM8HzQK18bx56k/N7Wd6azHmxM44Tph5sRHJF7xmyzAlR2Ex9yiL6y9Xf2nAcqvOdYUt 2auMuUUkjox1u9B0PPmaZ8BaYe9hHw8akDTGrryL01ppJmHlzkl8lvc7IwEemcL4pZkc gp/w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.153.80 with SMTP id j16mr21639258vcw.21.1354033694235; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:28:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.209.66 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:28:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 11:28:14 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] 32core AMD build From: rendernyc To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043be15a5bdb1504cf7c89a8 --f46d043be15a5bdb1504cf7c89a8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hopefully this can be addressed in a future release though On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Steve Oakley wrote: > I'm gonna eat my words :( ( snowball fight in hell is getting pretty nasty > too :) ).... right now AE is in fact limited to 2gb in CUDA based > rendering. > > S > > On Nov 27, 2012, at 9:52 AM, rendernyc wrote: > > im pretty sure that even if you have just a 4gb card the raytracer will > only be able to use 2GB > > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Steve Oakley wrote: > >> >> On Nov 27, 2012, at 9:26 AM, rendernyc wrote: >> >> also, for AE raytracing you are currently limited to 2GB per card max. >> >> >> not quite.. you are limited to the least amount of ram on all your >> cards. example, you have a card with 4gb and one with 2gb, the limit will >> be 2gb because of the smaller card. >> >> S >> >> >> >> Im not sure id buy a card that took 3 slots but i guess that depends on >> your mobo layout >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:15 AM, lsslss wrote: >> >>> will do!**** >>> >>> thx Evan and Teddy.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Met vriendelijke groet/kind regards,**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Marcel van Berk**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *Hoge Bomen/LSSLSS* >>> >>> Doctor Zamenhofstraat 2**** >>> >>> 3061 SH Rotterdam**** >>> >>> The Netherlands**** >>> >>> 06 485 605 58**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> info@lsslss.nl**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> www.lsslss.nl**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *Van:* After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] *Namens >>> *Teddy Gage >>> *Verzonden:* dinsdag 27 november 2012 16:13 >>> >>> *Aan:* After Effects Mail List >>> *Onderwerp:* Re: [AE] 32core AMD build**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Definitely the 4gb. You can over clock in software**** >>> >>> On Nov 27, 2012 8:25 AM, "lsslss" wrote:**** >>> >>> One more question on the kepler 6xx cards, for my 32core build, which is >>> in the process of being build.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> What should I choose, **** >>> >>> ASUS GTX680-DC2T-2GD5**** >>> >>> with overclocked speed to 1201MHz, but only 2GB GDDR5**** >>> >>> taking in 3 slots on the MoBo.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> or**** >>> >>> **** >>> ASUS GTX680-DC2-4GD5**** >>> >>> with a clock speed of 1058MHz, but with 4 GB GDDR5**** >>> >>> taking in 2 slots on the MoBo.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Both have 1536 CUDA cores, **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> So the question is, more speed or more memory, for a Geforce card.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> *Or is there something else to consider?***** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> THX !**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> (Any requests for benchmarks, which should I use? I'll probably be able >>> to start using it next week)**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> kind regards,**** >>> >>> Marcel van Berk**** >>> >>> *Hoge Bomen/LSSLSS***** >>> >>> info@lsslss.nl**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> www.lsslss.nl**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> *Van:* After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] *Namens >>> *Evan Fotis >>> *Verzonden:* dinsdag 20 november 2012 14:53 >>> *Aan:* After Effects Mail List >>> *Onderwerp:* Re: [AE] 32core AMD build**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> kepler 6xx cards also support 4 displays each as opposed to just 2 for >>> all previous models.**** >>> >>> On 20-Nov-12 15:17, lsslss wrote:**** >>> >>> Only the 550's and 560's are still available. Not really any 580 or 590. >>> **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Will have go into the 6XX.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Is there a good list for Cuda info on the divers cards?**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> kind regards,**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Marcel van Berk**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> *LSSLSS***** >>> >>> info@lsslss.nl**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> www.lsslss.nl**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> *Van:* After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] >>> *Namens *rendernyc >>> *Verzonden:* maandag 19 november 2012 16:10 >>> *Aan:* After Effects Mail List >>> *Onderwerp:* Re: [AE] 32core AMD build**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> they are still selling the 580s online here in the US... u sure they >>> arent available?**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> if not you can go with a couple 6XX which have the benefit of using less >>> power than the 5XXs**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 7:40 AM, lsslss wrote:**** >>> >>> hi List,**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> thanks for the comments, I'll update my choice of videocard.**** >>> >>> What card does have the most CUDA's at the moment?**** >>> >>> And which one has the best price/cuda ratio?**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> I know that the 500 series is quite nice, but they are not for sale >>> anymore.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Will keep you posted on the build.**** >>> >>> Should be done in approx 10 days.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> kind regards,**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Marcel van Berk**** >>> >>> *LSSLSS***** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> info@lsslss.nl**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> www.lsslss.nl**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> *Van:* After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] *Namens >>> *Carey Dissmore >>> *Verzonden:* vrijdag 16 november 2012 15:58 >>> *Aan:* After Effects Mail List >>> *Onderwerp:* Re: [AE] 32core AMD build**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> I look forward to seeing some benchmarks.**** >>> >>> A great, large well-cooled case alternative would be the Cooler Master >>> Cosmos II. **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> And while the Noctua is a good cooler you may want to consider a pair of >>> Corsair H100 or H80's if you don't have space for the two rads. They are >>> pretty quiet and easy to install, given the right case. Closed loop liquid >>> cooling like this is no muss no fuss.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> carey**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> On Nov 16, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Greg Balint wrote:**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> This is largely a warning, but i just wanted to get this out there since >>> I saw it was on your list. **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Unless you already have the HAF X case, I'm going to give you this >>> slight warning about it. **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> The case is super nice and there's tons of room inside, but I ran into a >>> huge issue when building that I've read a lot of people have. **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Basically the 6 sides of the case aren't completely square in a lot of >>> the builds. This doesn't hurt much of the build, the motherboard seats fine >>> and all of that, but what it did affect is my video card mounting/seating. >>> Because the connection to the motherboard is on one plane, and the rear of >>> the card is supposed to be perpendicular but was slightly off, they >>> wouldn't line up properly. If i wanted to screw the video card into the >>> rear slot area, it would unseat the card from the PCIe connection some. >>> Ever so slightly mind you, but enough that it caused some issues and I kept >>> having to check what the heck was going on. Eventually I settled for the >>> rear of the card being a bit offset/angled inside of the rear slot area. >>> It's not horrible, but it's not perfectly aligned. **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> I bought mine a year ago with this issue and people had issues with it >>> for months beforehand. It may be sorted out now, but just a word of >>> caution. if you're a perfectionist, this may get under your skin.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> ////Greg Balint >>> ///Art Director / Motion Graphic Designer >>> delRAZOR.com/ **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> On Friday, November 16, 2012 at 6:17 AM, lsslss wrote:**** >>> >>> hi List,**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> I am planning on building a 32core machine next week.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> It's going to be a :**** >>> >>> Supermicro H8DG-6-F AMD server**** >>> >>> AMD Opteron Interlagos 6272 (2x)**** >>> >>> Kingston KTD-PE316K4/32GB kit (2x)**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Coolermaster HAF X tower case**** >>> >>> Antec True Power Quattro 1200 EC **** >>> >>> Noctua NH-U9DO A3 Cpu Cooler (2x)**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Intel SSD 520 series 180GB (2x)**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> I still have 2x Quadro FX 4800 cards, that will go in.**** >>> >>> And some other stuff, like BluRay burner etc.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> I'm planning on running Windows 7 Pro 64bit (that will allow for up to >>> 192 Gb of Ram)**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> It's mainly for Adobe Master CS6 (AE, AME, PR), Cinema4d and for >>> creating DCPs.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> *Is there anything that I should think of, before ordering the build ?** >>> *** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Thx a lot !**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> kind regards,**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Marcel van Berk**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> *Hoge Bomen/LSSLSS***** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> info@lsslss.nl**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> www.lsslss.nl**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> >>> >>> **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> -- >>> danny princz >>> >>> exposedideas.com**** >>> >>> **** >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> danny princz >> >> exposedideas.com >> >> >> > > > -- > danny princz > > exposedideas.com > > > -- danny princz exposedideas.com --f46d043be15a5bdb1504cf7c89a8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hopefully this can be addressed in a future release though


On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:22 = AM, Steve Oakley <steveo@practicali.com> wrote:
I'm = gonna eat my words :( ( snowball fight in hell is getting pretty nasty too = :) ).... right now AE is in fact limited to 2gb in CUDA based rendering.=A0=

S

On Nov 27, 2012, at 9:52 AM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> wrote:

im pretty sure that even if you have just a 4gb card the raytracer will onl= y be able to use 2GB


On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Steve Oakley <= ;steveo@practica= li.com> wrote:

On Nov 27, 2012, at 9:26 AM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> wrote:
also, for AE raytracing you are currently=A0limit= ed=A0to 2GB per card max.=A0

not quit= e.. =A0you are limited to the least amount of ram on all your cards. exampl= e, you have a card with 4gb and one with 2gb, the limit will be 2gb because= of the smaller card.

S



Im not sure id buy a card that took 3 slots but i guess= that depends on your mobo layout


<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:15 AM, lsslss <info@lssl= ss.nl> wrote:

wi= ll do!

thx Evan a= nd Teddy.

=A0

Met vriendelijke groet/ki= nd regards,

=A0

Marcel van Berk=

=A0=

Hoge Bomen/LSSLSS

Doctor Zamenhofstraat 2

3061 SH Rotterdam<= u>

The Neth= erlands

06 485 605 58

=A0

= info@lsslss.nl=

=A0<= /p>

www.lsslss.nl<= u>

=A0<= /p>

Van: After Eff= ects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] Namens Teddy Gage
Verzonden: dinsdag 27 november 2012 16:13


Aan:= After Effects Mail List
Onderwerp: Re: [AE] 32core AMD build=

=A0

Definitely the 4gb. You can over clock in software<= u>

On Nov 27, 2012 8:25 AM, "= ;lsslss" <info@= lsslss.nl> wrote:

One more question on the kepler 6xx cards, for my 32core bu= ild, which is in the process of being build.

=A0=

What should I choose,

ASUS GTX680-DC2T-2GD5

with overclocked speed to 1201MHz= , but only 2GB GDDR5

taking in 3 slots on the MoBo.=

=A0=

or

=A0=

ASUS GTX680-DC= 2-4GD5

with a clock speed of 1058MHz, but with 4 GB GDDR5

taking in = 2 slots on the MoBo.

=A0

Both have = 1536 CUDA cores,

=A0

So the que= stion is, more speed or more memory, for a Geforce card.

=A0=

Or is there something else to consider?=

=A0=

=A0

THX !

=A0

(Any reque= sts for benchmarks, which should I use? I'll probably be able to start = using it next week)

=A0=

=A0

kind = regards,

Marcel van Berk

Hoge Bo= men/LSSLSS

info@lss= lss.nl

=A0=

www.lsslss.nl

=A0

Van: After Eff= ects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] Namens Evan Fotis
Verzonden: dinsdag 20 november 2012 14:53
Aan: After Effec= ts Mail List
Onderwerp: Re: [AE] 32core AMD build

=A0

kepler 6xx cards also support 4 displays each as opposed to just 2 for all = previous models.

On 20-Nov-12 = 15:17, lsslss wrote:

Only the 5= 50's and 560's are still available. Not really any 580 or 590.

=A0=

Will have go into the 6XX.

=A0=

Is there a good list for Cuda info on the divers cards?

=A0=

kind re= gards,

=A0<= /p>

Marcel van Berk=

=A0<= /p>

LSSLSS

= info@lsslss.nl

=A0

= www.lsslss.nl

=A0

Van: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] Namens rendernyc Verzonden: maandag 19 november 2012 16:10
Aan: After Effec= ts Mail List
Onderwerp: Re: [AE] 32core AMD build

=A0

they are still selling the 580s online here in the US... u sure they arent = available?

=A0

if not you can go with a couple 6XX whi= ch have the benefit of using less power than the 5XXs

=A0=

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 7:40 AM, lss= lss <info@lsslss.nl<= /a>> wrote:

hi List,

=A0<= /p>

thanks = for the comments, I'll update my choice of videocard.<= /u>

What card = does have the most CUDA's at the moment?

And which one has the best price/= cuda ratio?

=A0

I know tha= t the 500 series is quite nice, but they are not for sale anymore.

=A0=

Will keep you posted on the build.

Should be = done in approx 10 days.

=A0

=A0=

=A0

kind regards,

= =A0

Marcel van Berk=

L= SSLSS

=A0<= /p>

info@lsslss.nl

=A0<= /p>

www.lsslss.nl

=A0

Van: After Eff= ects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] Namens Carey Dissmore
Verzonden: vrijdag 16 november 2012 15:58
Aan: After Effec= ts Mail List
Onderwerp: Re: [AE] 32core AMD build

=A0

I look forward to seeing some benchmarks.

A great, large well-cooled case alternative would be the Cooler= Master Cosmos II.=A0

=A0

And while the Noctua= is a good cooler you may want to consider a pair of Corsair H100 or H80= 9;s if you don't have space for the two rads. They are pretty quiet and= easy to install, given the right case. Closed loop liquid cooling like thi= s is no muss no fuss.

=A0

carey

=A0=

On Nov 16, 2012, at 8:27= AM, Greg Balint <greg@delrazor.com> wrote:

=A0

This is largely a warning, but i just wan= ted to get this out there since I saw it was on your list.=A0=

=A0

Unless you already have the HAF X case, I'm going to give you t= his slight warning about it.=A0

=A0

The case is super ni= ce and there's tons of room inside, but I ran into a huge issue when bu= ilding that I've read a lot of people have.=A0

<= div>

=A0

Basically the 6 sides of the case aren't completely square in a lot = of the builds. This doesn't hurt much of the build, the motherboard sea= ts fine and all of that, but what it did affect is my video card mounting/s= eating. =A0Because the connection to the motherboard is on one plane, and t= he rear of the card is supposed to be perpendicular but was slightly off, t= hey wouldn't line up properly. If i wanted to screw the video card into= the rear slot area, it would unseat the card from the PCIe connection some= . Ever so slightly mind you, but enough that it caused some issues and I ke= pt having to check what the heck was going on. Eventually I settled for the= rear of the card being a bit offset/angled inside of the rear slot area. I= t's not horrible, but it's not perfectly aligned.=A0<= /p>

=A0=

I bought mine a year ago with = this issue and people had issues with it for months beforehand. It may be s= orted out now, but just a word of caution. if you're a perfectionist, t= his may get under your skin.

=A0=

=A0

=A0<= /u>

////Greg Balint
///Art Director / Motion Graphic = Designer
delRAZOR.com= /

=A0

On Friday, November 16, 2012 at 6:17 AM, l= sslss wrote:

hi List,

=A0

I am planning on building a 32core machine next week.

=A0=

It's goi= ng to be a :

Supermicro H8DG-6-F AMD server

AMD Opteron Interlag= os 6272 (2x)

Kingston KTD-PE316K4/32GB kit (2x)

=A0

Coolermaster HAF X= tower case

Antec True Power Quattro 1200 EC

Noctua NH-U9DO A3 Cp= u Cooler (2x)

=A0

Intel SSD 520 series 180GB (2x)<= /u>

=A0=

=A0

I st= ill have 2x Quadro FX 4800 cards, that will go in.

And some other stuff= , like BluRay burner etc.

=A0

I'm planning on running Windows 7 Pro 64bit (that = will allow for up to 192 Gb of Ram)

=A0

<= div>

It's mainly for Adobe Maste= r CS6 (AE, AME, PR), Cinema4d and for creating DCPs.

=A0<= u>

Is there anything= that I should think of, before ordering the build ?

=A0<= /u>

Thx a lot !

=A0<= /span>

kind regards,

=A0

Marcel van Berk

=A0

Hoge Bomen/LSSLSS<= /b>

=A0

=A0

www.lsslss.nl

=A0

=A0

=A0



<= /u>

=A0

--
danny princz

exposedideas.com

=A0




--
danny princz

exposedideas.com




--
danny princz

exposedideas.com




--
danny princz

exposedideas.com
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