Return-Path: Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.97] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4914639 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 22:35:55 +0100 Received: from mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.67]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 0EE4B38000091 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 16:39:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from lunette.home (pool-71-118-69-127.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.118.69.127]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 1152CE000444; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 16:39:46 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A3F3B694-812B-4473-9EDD-9C2F0CD79248" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: [AE] top feature requests for After Effects in 2012 From: Tim Sassoon In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 13:39:44 -0800 Cc: Tim Sassoon Message-Id: <4A435667-0B91-442F-916F-C5F634BF020C@aol.com> References: To: "After Effects Mail List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20121107; t=1354570787; bh=bZtJECCWxJnAFNywp9SfzylR/TbcB7uUPLMwA9xSXOs=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=wtsxxLNai1DLnmO1MAU3F/2PaEkxgrRywR7M8z60gy795VZeWPZwVJSh1B3z6e9fh egcWtfP3bqeFEouShaoRax5J4/OOdsiRNNENPGzCNRqqRZWgb4BZ9tZJwKRXqFPzKx iR73MET7w5G2eqD4Xe+0Xa7vUAKvpy5W5j6YID+s= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:496476992:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294350bd1c210858 X-AOL-IP: 71.118.69.127 --Apple-Mail=_A3F3B694-812B-4473-9EDD-9C2F0CD79248 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 Agreed. We sometimes go overboard limiting (i.e. forbidding) the use of = 3rd-party plug-ins to avoid this problem. Doesn't help developers. Tim Sassoon SFD Santa Monica, CA On Dec 3, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Louai Abu-Osba wrote: > I'd really like to see AE play nicer with render farms. aerender can = be crashy when launched in multiple instances, and the plugin licensing = is a nightmare for large farm deployments. >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Tim Sassoon wrote: > I posted this comment (awaiting moderation): >=20 > AE=92s main competition now being Nuke, be mindful that AE=92s = continuing advantage will be in CREATIVE and design tasks. Pursuant to = that, for the next version of AE I=92d like to see two things I=92ve = long asked for: PS Brushes and fonts, both embedded in the project or = saved as a sidecar cache file, so that the file will open with those = resources in future versions or on basic render installs. I would say = better scaling too, but you=92re already on board. >=20 > For the long-term future, I think the AE project concept needs to = change for the bigger, and become a multi-user database interoperable = with it=92s suite-mate applications, particularly PR and SG, that=92s = really about workgroup efficiency and project management. Instant = updating of artist contributions, history, messaging, speculative = rendering servers, etc. Instead of being centered on the Project, it = needs to be centered on the Job, which would consist of many shots = within a larger program. Each of those shots may have an entire = Project=92s worth of stuff going on, and the Job conforms all those = shots into a finished program. >=20 > It goes without saying that this isn=92t a Next Version goal. But one = might think about the file format(s) needed to accomplish this, keep it = as open as possible to 3rd party contributions and scripting, and start = implementing it on whatever level. >=20 >=20 > Tim Sassoon > SFD > Santa Monica, CA >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Dec 3, 2012, at 12:14 PM, B=B3a=BFej Pieczonka = wrote: >=20 >> I am currently at work now, but maybe someone could prepare a message = covering nodal compositing request, so everyone can paste it on = http://www.adobe.com/go/wish :> ? >>=20 >> Wiadomo=9C=E6 napisana przez Todd Kopriva w dniu 3 gru 2012, o godz. = 21:07: >>=20 >>> There was a trickle of such features this year, but not much. Of = course, if everyone speaking out on this thread were to add their voice = here ( http://www.adobe.com/go/wish ), the results would be different. >>>=20 >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: After Effects Mail List [AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of = Brendan Bolles [brendan@fnordware.com] >>>=20 >>> To me, this is really a feature request to add a little checkbox = next to every layer param to get the layer after the effects and = transformations have been applied. >>>=20 >>> Actually, most people would probably want that to become the = default, so maybe you'd check the box to get the current behavior, with = old projects getting it checked when upgraded to CSNext. >>>=20 >>> I know this feature has been requested before, maybe it's just not = in the top 10. >>>=20 >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>=20 >>=20 >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_A3F3B694-812B-4473-9EDD-9C2F0CD79248 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1250
Tim = Sassoon
SFD
Santa Monica, = CA



On Dec 3, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Louai Abu-Osba <me@louai.org> wrote:

I'd really = like to see AE play nicer with render farms. aerender can be crashy when = launched in multiple instances, and the plugin licensing is a nightmare = for large farm deployments.


On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Tim Sassoon <tsassoon@aol.com> wrote:
I posted this comment (awaiting = moderation):

AE=92s main competition now being = Nuke, be mindful that AE=92s continuing advantage will be in CREATIVE = and design tasks. Pursuant to that, for the next version of AE I=92d = like to see two things I=92ve long asked for: PS Brushes and fonts, both = embedded in the project or saved as a sidecar cache file, so that the = file will open with those resources in future versions or on basic = render installs. I would say better scaling too, but you=92re already on = board.

For the long-term future, I think = the AE project concept needs to change for the bigger, and become a = multi-user database interoperable with it=92s suite-mate applications, = particularly PR and SG, that=92s really about workgroup efficiency and = project management. Instant updating of artist contributions, history, = messaging, speculative rendering servers, etc. Instead of being centered = on the Project, it needs to be centered on the Job, which would consist = of many shots within a larger program. Each of those shots may have an = entire Project=92s worth of stuff going on, and the Job conforms all = those shots into a finished program.

It goes without saying that this = isn=92t a Next Version goal. But one might think about the file = format(s) needed to accomplish this, keep it as open as possible to 3rd = party contributions and scripting, and start implementing it on whatever = level.


Tim Sassoon
SFD
Santa Monica, = CA



On Dec 3, 2012, at 12:14 PM, B=B3a=BFej Pieczonka <blazej.pieczonka@gmail.com> = wrote:

I am currently at work now, = but maybe someone could prepare a message covering nodal compositing = request, so everyone can paste it on http://www.adobe.com/go/wish :> ?

Wiadomo=9C=E6 napisana przez Todd Kopriva w dniu 3 gru 2012, o godz. = 21:07:

There was a trickle of such = features this year, but not much. Of course, if everyone speaking out on = this thread were to add their voice here ( http://www.adobe.com/go/wish ), the results would = be different.

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From: After Effects Mail = List [AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Brendan = Bolles [brendan@fnordware.com]

To me, this is really a feature request to add a little checkbox = next to every layer param to get the layer after the effects and = transformations have been applied.

Actually, most people would = probably want that to become the default, so maybe you'd check the box = to get the current behavior, with old projects getting it checked when = upgraded to CSNext.

I know this feature has been requested before, maybe it's just not = in the top 10.

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