Mailing List AE-List@media-motion.tv ? Message #46854
From: Chris Zwar <chris@chriszwar.com>
Subject: Re: [AE] top feature requests for After Effects in 2012
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 01:01:30 +0000
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
:-)

BTW Tim I totally agreed with the rest of your email.

When I started doing this stuff I was mainly interested in how a particular effect was done / what plug ins were used, what software etc etc etc.  If video copilot had been around when I was starting out I would have been visiting the site every day waiting for new tutorials...

Now I am much more interested in overall project workflows, project management, etc etc.

The most difficult thing I find with After Effects is splitting up a project amongst several people.  This has happened a lot to me recently- for example a project might have a 15 day budget.  I start it thinking it will be just me for 15 days.  I do a few days of work but then the deadline changes, and suddenly there's five of us working on it and it has to be done tomorrow etc etc etc  Then when it's done the client comes back a week later with revisions, and I have to manage five separate After Effects projects...

Splitting projects apart and merging them back together - that's the type of scenario that challenges me the most...

I enjoy these threads!  Sorry to sound ranty...

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Kopriva [mailto:kopriva@adobe.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 11:50 AM
To: 'After Effects Mail List'
Subject: Re: [AE] top feature requests for After Effects in 2012

I can get into a lot of trouble for making specific promises about features in future versions, but I'll say this:

I'm rather sure that you will not see a Linux version of After Effects before you see a color swatch panel built into After Effects.


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From: After Effects Mail List [AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Chris Zwar [chris@chriszwar.com]
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 4:48 PM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] top feature requests for After Effects in 2012

I didn't think it was a rant, maybe it was a train of thought that got de-railed ;-)

I was thinking about two separate comments, firstly that node-based compositing is a top feature request, and secondly that Nuke and After Effects might be competitors.  Although separate, I was thinking about the potential for Adobe to implement node-based compositing as an attempt to compete with Nuke.  And I totally understand that this was not what you said!

I suspect that at least some of the people who are requesting nodes in AE are wanting After Effects to become Nuke, or hold some hope that it would open new markets to them.  I think this is wrong and it was to this thought - which I totally understand is not what you meant - that I responded about the markets being different.

And I didn't mean to imply that adding nodes to After Effects would alientate existing users, what I meant was that diverting resources away from features that would be more useful would annoy existing users.  I would be really p****d if Adobe wasted resources on a linux port when we still don't have a colour swatch palette or a histogram in the curves effect.

-Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Sassoon [mailto:tsassoon@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 11:20 AM
To: 'After Effects Mail List'
Subject: Re: [AE] top feature requests for After Effects in 2012

That's what I mean by competition (Nuke). Though I don't think there's more than maybe a 30% functional overlap between them. AE will never be the hardcore nodal 3D compositor that Nuke is, and Nuke probably isn't anyone's first choice for text animation. Chris, you took off on a tear without actually reading what I wrote, which is pretty much the opposite of what your rant assumed. I say, strengthen the things which make AE unique, which is as a CREATIVE platform. Which is why I said brushes and fonts. How many other apps can one create really beautiful work quickly, often without any external sources? Make it so that a generalist needs to know BOTH.


Tim Sassoon
SFD
Santa Monica, CA



On Dec 3, 2012, at 3:02 PM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> wrote:

> i have seen several of these companies that were using AE for comping slowly switching completely away from AE on many projects





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