Return-Path: Received: from ch1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com ([216.32.181.183] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4916730 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 23:42:44 +0100 Received: from mail199-ch1-R.bigfish.com (10.43.68.252) by CH1EHSOBE006.bigfish.com (10.43.70.56) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 22:46:37 +0000 Received: from mail199-ch1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail199-ch1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546A334037F for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 22:46:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:204.75.127.192;KIP:(null);UIP:(null);IPV:NLI;H:N1-1EXC-BM09.corp.rhalf.com;RD:mailout-hide.rhi.com;EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: -1 X-BigFish: VPS-1(zz98dI9371Id6eahc85fhzz1de0h1202h1d1ah1d2ahzz17326ah8275bh8275dh18c673hz32i668h839hd25hf0ah1288h12a5h12bdh137ah1441h1504h1537h153bh15d0h162dh1631h1155h) Received-SPF: permerror (mail199-ch1: error in processing during lookup of domain of rhi.com: Could not find a valid SPF record) client-ip=204.75.127.192; envelope-from=scott.tupper@rhi.com; helo=N1-1EXC-BM09.corp.rhalf.com ;rp.rhalf.com ; Received: from mail199-ch1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail199-ch1 (MessageSwitch) id 1354661195446665_25968; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 22:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CH1EHSMHS026.bigfish.com (snatpool2.int.messaging.microsoft.com [10.43.68.234]) by mail199-ch1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE5146005C for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 22:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from N1-1EXC-BM09.corp.rhalf.com (204.75.127.192) by CH1EHSMHS026.bigfish.com (10.43.70.26) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 22:46:30 +0000 X-AuditID: 0af9124f-b7f836d000000a2a-67-50be7d4558e1 Received: from N1-1EXC-CAS10.na.msds.rhi.com (Unknown_Domain [10.246.225.11]) by N1-1EXC-BM09.corp.rhalf.com (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 70.21.02602.54D7EB05; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 14:46:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from N1-1EXC-MBX06N1.na.msds.rhi.com ([fe80::dcd9:cbf3:ecfa:933c]) by N1-1EXC-CAS10.na.msds.rhi.com ([fe80::7998:89ea:150f:5186%11]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 14:46:29 -0800 From: "Tupper, Scott (HQP)" To: After Effects Mail List Subject: RE: [AE] downgrade newer MacBook Pro Thread-Topic: [AE] downgrade newer MacBook Pro Thread-Index: AQHN0Yk4Dgq9gk1gEk6e6tOOJGqNBpgJPxJw Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 22:46:28 +0000 Message-ID: <400A2F6AA78BA1449ABA2114F12AF69B05FF995C@N1-1EXC-MBX06N1.na.msds.rhi.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.249.18.12] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_400A2F6AA78BA1449ABA2114F12AF69B05FF995CN11EXCMBX06N1na_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Proxied X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprGIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsXC9e0ht65r7b4Ag7V9uha3r8Q7MHp0vbzE FsAYxWWTkpqTWZZapG+XwJWx+EdCwUzvivV7p7E0MJ5w6GLk4JAQMJE4f76ki5ETyBSTuHBv PVsXIxeHkMAVRon5y3oYIZxzjBKPfq9kAqliEzCS+PZxKzuILSJgKnF682FmEFtYQFfiWtNm Foi4nsSGyVPZIGwjiWW/O8FsFgEViZ2v5oHZvAJhEtsOfGUGOUJIQEtizZsAkDCngLbE0eun WUFsRqCDvp9aA7aWWUBc4taT+UwQhwpILNlznhnCFpV4+fgfK4StILFzD0g9B1B9vsTsBZEQ mwQlTs58wgLxrrjE4j1ZExhFZyEZOguhYRaSBogSHYkFuz+xQdjaEssWvmaGsc8ceMyELL6A kX0Vo7Sfoa6ha4SzrpOvgaVecn5RgV5RRmJOGpCZu4kRFFs/hfx3MD7apH+IUYCDUYmHN0Nv X4AQa2JZcWXuIUYJDmYlEd5/dkAh3pTEyqrUovz4otKc1OJDjNIcLErivBuyFwYICaQnlqRm p6YWpBbBZJk4OKUaGOeI3OK7Fs+26NTjRNGEv3+lUow7Kk/tX1MwaWb+1b+3F9/2zOW5Vr2w cpLxyb/LvqQdsa3rzo9jba+Qq3PVkpEMSN++x2Tr3zbB1VYB0axSPGFvfKM/bpqfsGVa07Gp 2zx2Sz5ZxO15+pe1skq28ooc+/ZAE4Wu4lufNbI77+y/v/jktcRnW5VYijMSDbWYi4oTAYm3 ysmpAgAA Return-Path: scott.tupper@rhi.com X-OriginatorOrg: rhi.com --_000_400A2F6AA78BA1449ABA2114F12AF69B05FF995CN11EXCMBX06N1na_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks guys, I will be testing 10.8 and CS6 within our corp network with cr= ossed fingers! -scott From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of= Jim Curtis Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:06 AM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] downgrade newer MacBook Pro Right. If you buy the OS in a standalone package, it should work on all qua= lified Macs. You can often find shrink-wrapped older versions at VARs or o= n eBay. I believe Lion was $30, so you don't stand to lose much except som= e time, if you clone your disk first and then give it a try. On Dec 3, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Carey Dissmore wrote: For as long as I can remember, Apple has issued specific, customized instal= ler disks whenever they issue new hardware between major OS revisions. Thes= e are custom builds of the Mac OS that contain the specific drivers, enable= rs, etc. for the new hardware in questions. These items are rolled in with the next major "retail" OS release. This sys= tem, once understood, explains why many Mac OS installer discs will not wor= k on other Macs. They lock that down a bit but the retail ones are more uni= versal. The appear to be continuing this somewhat in the era of App-store d= elivered OS updates, with some modification. Whatever the case, Apple has never made it easy or simple to go backwards t= o a version of the Mac OS that pre-dates the hardware launch date. Sometime= s you can find a few enterprising users with time on their hands that have = figured out how to do it by moving certain files to the old OS, etc. but th= at's the level of time-sinking geekery you are going to have to resort to i= n order to do it. FWIW, HTH, carey On Nov 30, 2012, at 3:49 PM, "Tupper, Scott (HQP)" > wrote: I am hearing that the newer Non-Retina Display 15" model cannot be downgrad= ed from the installed 10.8 to 10.7. Can anyone confirm this? I don't see why you can't boot to external drive,= erase and install from a 10.7 image. But I am hearing something about 10.= 8 firmware?!?! Thanks -scott --_000_400A2F6AA78BA1449ABA2114F12AF69B05FF995CN11EXCMBX06N1na_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks guys, I will be te= sting 10.8 and CS6 within our corp network with crossed fingers!=

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-scott<= /p>

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From: After Ef= fects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Jim Curtis
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:06 AM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] downgrade newer MacBook Pro

 

Right. If you buy the OS in a standalone package, it= should work on all qualified Macs.  You can often find shrink-wrapped= older versions at VARs or on eBay.  I believe Lion was $30, so you do= n't stand to lose much except some time, if you clone your disk first and then give it a try.

 

 

 

On Dec 3, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Carey Dissmore wrote:



For as long as I can remember, Apple has issued spec= ific, customized installer disks whenever they issue new hardware between m= ajor OS revisions. These are custom builds of the Mac OS that contain the s= pecific drivers, enablers, etc. for the new hardware in questions.

 

These items are rolled in with the next major "= retail" OS release. This system, once understood, explains why many Ma= c OS installer discs will not work on other Macs. They lock that down a bit= but the retail ones are more universal. The appear to be continuing this somewhat in the era of App-store delivered OS= updates, with some modification.

 

Whatever the case, Apple has never made it easy or s= imple to go backwards to a version of the Mac OS that pre-dates the hardwar= e launch date. Sometimes you can find a few enterprising users with time on= their hands that have figured out how to do it by moving certain files to the old OS, etc. but that's the le= vel of time-sinking geekery you are going to have to resort to in order to = do it.

 

FWIW, HTH,

 

carey

 

 

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