Return-Path: Received: from www.digitalanarchy.com ([208.84.113.138] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4940901 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 04 Jan 2013 01:08:31 +0100 Received: from RadiantJimHP (c-69-181-246-69.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [69.181.246.69]) (authenticated bits=0) by aurora2.hosting4less.com (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r040DlN9009429 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 16:13:53 -0800 From: "Jim Tierney" To: "'After Effects Mail List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [AE] OT [AE] kepler cards & multi-monitor support Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 16:13:06 -0800 Message-ID: <04a301cdea10$46edac50$d4c904f0$@digitalanarchy.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_04A4_01CDE9CD.38D19840" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AQKQNF3ESCyHQ+Py460eOdqbcbl/yJazsEXQ This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_04A4_01CDE9CD.38D19840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The 570 is, bang for buck, the best card we=E2=80=99ve tested with = Beauty Box. The performance of the 690 (using one gpu, so a 680 really) = wasn=E2=80=99t significantly faster than the 570 in AE. This may be = because if you=E2=80=99ve got 4 cores all rendering, probably only one = of them at a time is rendering on the GPU. The GPU can only handle so = much. Otherwise it doesn=E2=80=99t seem the 600 series is that much = faster than the 500 series for CUDA/OpenCL tasks. I know for gaming the = 600 series is great, but I haven=E2=80=99t seen a lot of evidence that = it=E2=80=99s all that in our testing or in other tests using video apps. =20 Fwiw=E2=80=A6 just did a blog post about putting a 570 in a Mac: =20 http://anarchyjim.digitalanarchy.com/industry-stuff/nvidia-geforce-gtx-57= 0-in-a-macintosh/ =20 The performance was good, but it seemed slower than on the PC. I = would=E2=80=99ve expected it to blow away the ATI 5770 and mostly it = kept pace with it in AE. In Premiere it was a different story. The 570 = was significantly faster. In part I=E2=80=99m sure because of the = Mercury engine, but also I don=E2=80=99t think Premiere is as good at = multiprocessing as AE, so more frames get rendered on the GPU. AE is = around 3-4 times faster than Premiere for rendering out Beauty Box on a = clip. Which is why we recommend rendering it in AE and then cutting it = in whatever editor you use. =20 =20 Cheers, Jim --------------- =20 Jim Tierney President Digital Anarchy =20 =20 From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf = Of Paul Crisanti Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 2:56 PM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] OT [AE] kepler cards & multi-monitor support =20 how did the 570 work on your plugins? Thank you.\ ~p =20 On Jan 3, 2013, at 4:48 PM, Jim Tierney wrote: A note about the 690=E2=80=A6 =20 We ran into a bunch of problems with Premiere and had to disable the = multiple GPUs, essentially making it a 680. Judging from what = I=E2=80=99ve read online, we=E2=80=99re not the only one, so if = you=E2=80=99re using Premiere you might have issues with the 690. (and = you might not, seemed to be folks that it worked fine for) We were = primarily testing it with Beauty Box, but even with BB uninstalled = Premiere still had problems. For Beauty Box itself we=E2=80=99re not = supporting multiple GPUs at this time. It=E2=80=99s not that straight = forward to support it, so if you buy a 690, just make sure you can = return it if your system/apps don=E2=80=99t play nicely with it. =20 =20 Cheers, Jim ---------------=20 Jim Tierney President Digital Anarchy =20 =20 =20 From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf = Of Evan Fotis Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:17 PM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] OT [AE] kepler cards & multi-monitor support =20 i'm surprized that 480 1.5gb came faster than a 670 4gb & 680 2Gb.. = wasn't this purely a GPU test? On 03-Jan-13 23:00, rendernyc wrote: im currently using my GTX card headless and drive the monitor with the = ATI card it came with. The 660 is pretty similar to a 670 so it would probably be slightly = slower than a 670 listed here if in a similar machine =20 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=3D0AuE_AZZfskx3dHotTzVGamhiUk= IySTUteGlzeG9xMEE#gid=3D2 =20 On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Evan Fotis wrote: has anyone used the GTX 660ti 3GB w AE and has any comments = recommendations or not? Also have used your Kepler cards to drive 3-4 monitors successfully? TIA On 03-Jan-13 16:45, rendernyc wrote: currently testing out a GTX690 in my macpro i had an this extruded shape layer model so i did a quick camera move = and rendered out 3 seconds at 1080 in 10 minutes. =20 the renderer can make some really nice imagery plus it has the benefit = of all being animatable right in AE the way you are used to working =20 https://vimeo.com/56676245 =20 On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:44 AM, mike cardeiro = wrote: I finally had a chance to play with the new 3d capabilities of = CS6.=EF=BF=BD Heres the link, all the animation was done in after = effects, the only thing not done in ae was the actual modeling of the = snow globe which I did in 3d max. http://youtu.be/Ha7z18U6MHo =20 I give after effects a big thumbs up, as usual, there were lots of = changes and it was so much easier and faster to change and render than = if I did it all in 3d max. =20 Mike Cardeiro Editor/Animator/Compositor=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF= =BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF= =BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=20 D4 Creative Group - Philadelphia, PA=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=20 =EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF= =BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=20 http://www.michaelcardeiro.com/resume/=20 http://www.youtube.com/user/mcardeiro =20 --=20 danny princz exposedideas.com =20 =20 --=20 danny princz exposedideas.com =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_04A4_01CDE9CD.38D19840 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The 570 is, bang for buck, the best card we=E2=80=99ve tested with = Beauty Box. The performance of the 690 (using one gpu, so a 680 really) = wasn=E2=80=99t significantly faster than the 570 in AE. This may be = because if you=E2=80=99ve got 4 cores all rendering, probably only one = of them at a time is rendering on the GPU. The GPU can only handle so = much. Otherwise it doesn=E2=80=99t seem the 600 series is that much = faster than the 500 series for CUDA/OpenCL tasks. I know for gaming the = 600 series is great, but I haven=E2=80=99t seen a lot of evidence that = it=E2=80=99s all that in our testing or in other tests using video = apps.

 

Fwiw=E2=80=A6 just did a blog post about putting a 570 in a = Mac:

 

http://anarchyjim.digitalanarchy.com/industry-= stuff/nvidia-geforce-gtx-570-in-a-macintosh/

 

The performance was good, but it seemed slower than on the PC. I = would=E2=80=99ve expected it to blow away the ATI 5770 and mostly it = kept pace with it in AE. In Premiere it was a different story. The 570 = was significantly faster. In part I=E2=80=99m sure because of the = Mercury engine, but also I don=E2=80=99t think Premiere is as good at = multiprocessing as AE, so more frames get rendered on the GPU. AE is = around 3-4 times faster than Premiere for rendering out Beauty Box on a = clip. Which is why we recommend rendering it in AE and then cutting it = in whatever editor you use.

 

 

Cheers,

Jim

---------------=C2=A0

Jim Tierney

President

Digital Anarchy

 

 

From:= = After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of = Paul Crisanti
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 2:56 = PM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] OT = [AE] kepler cards & multi-monitor = support

 

how did the = 570 work on your plugins?

Thank = you.\

~p

 

On = Jan 3, 2013, at 4:48 PM, Jim Tierney wrote:



A note about the 690=E2=80=A6

 

We ran into a bunch of problems with Premiere and had to disable the = multiple GPUs, essentially making it a 680. Judging from what = I=E2=80=99ve read online, we=E2=80=99re not the only one, so if = you=E2=80=99re using Premiere you might have issues with the 690. (and = you might not, seemed to be folks that it worked fine for) We were = primarily testing it with Beauty Box, but even with BB uninstalled = Premiere still had problems. For Beauty Box itself we=E2=80=99re not = supporting multiple GPUs at this time. It=E2=80=99s not that straight = forward to support it, so if you buy a 690, just make sure you can = return it if your system/apps don=E2=80=99t play nicely with = it.

 

 

Cheers,

Jim

--------------- 

Jim Tierney

President

Digital Anarchy

 

 

 

From:=  After = Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-mo= tion.tv] On = Behalf Of Evan = Fotis
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 = 1:17 PM
To: After Effects Mail = List
Subject: Re: [AE] OT [AE] kepler cards = & multi-monitor support

 

i'm surprized that 480 1.5gb came faster than a = 670 4gb & 680 2Gb.. wasn't this purely a GPU = test?

On 03-Jan-13 23:00, rendernyc = wrote:

im currently using my GTX = card headless and drive the monitor with the ATI card it came = with.

The 660 is pretty similar to a 670 so it would = probably be slightly slower than a 670 listed here if in = a similar machine

 

 

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at = 2:36 PM, Evan Fotis <evan.fotis@gmail.com> = wrote:

has anyone = used the GTX 660ti 3GB w AE and has any comments recommendations or = not?
Also have used your Kepler cards to drive 3-4 monitors = successfully?
TIA

On 03-Jan-13 16:45, = rendernyc wrote:

currently testing out a = GTX690 in my macpro

i had an this extruded = shape layer model so i did a quick camera move and rendered out 3 = seconds at 1080 in 10 = minutes.

 

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>the renderer can make = some really nice imagery plus it has the benefit of all being animatable = right in AE the way you are used to = working

 

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>https://vimeo.com/56676245

 

On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at = 10:44 AM, mike cardeiro <mcardeiro@yahoo.com> = wrote:

I finally had a chance to = play with the new 3d capabilities of CS6.=EF=BF=BD<= span class=3Dapple-converted-space> Heres the link, all the animation was done in = after effects, the only thing not done in ae was the actual modeling of = the snow globe which I did in 3d = max.

 

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>I give after effects a = big thumbs up, as usual, there were lots of changes and it was so much = easier and faster to change and render than if I did it all in 3d = max.

 

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>Mike = Cardeiro
Editor/Animator/Compositor=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD= =EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF= =BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD 
D4 Creative Group - Philadelphia, = PA=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD= =EF=BF=BD 
=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD= =EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF= =BF=BD 
http://www.michaelcardeiro.com/resume/ 
http://www.youtube.com/user/mcardeiro



 

-- 
danny = princz

exposedideas.com

 

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-- 
danny princz

exposedideas.com

 

 

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