Return-Path: Received: from mail-la0-f48.google.com ([209.85.215.48] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4941735 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 04 Jan 2013 20:25:47 +0100 Received: by mail-la0-f48.google.com with SMTP id ej20so10083735lab.7 for ; Fri, 04 Jan 2013 11:30:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=plCp9JpgGJMkFkbLEypnw9Ai1c+9s7vaiZ/fwzuZyAQ=; b=v5rk9rzsZbWdxAKbHt4W03Hi2tGoAvLDyzpn80p9yktjdkk4w+wsuSNVo4zDvg31UF eiEYxYTzlIYTMUXo6A4y63jTkkZ+BdduV2DPr5tBuC09hntiBe6ObAJCV6NpcJknPlc1 9HTQv90zq7jiUMr9BfCbpLAV2sCwxqmwZHaXxm3kON4pRCcCo3TLkzM9VGepqLK4dhBS 0OFhxGTpf8dQiyNEcz08wnMyNGogHLF2cGXjJWphuD0wQGr60tO3XwB1HFkDOKxq4W8e esG6Or5uBk5O2UhEtkQCKjpODmPXilY2mH+UKp4R2/9uTOCz85ozc7y7DXnOxXLHkd2g lS3Q== Received: by 10.112.87.40 with SMTP id u8mr21767662lbz.50.1357327833715; Fri, 04 Jan 2013 11:30:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.9.103 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Jan 2013 11:30:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Byron Nash Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 14:30:13 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] The best ergonomic input device is... To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec554df405f55c004d27b8371 --bcaec554df405f55c004d27b8371 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Using the Wacom rocker switch as Right and Middle mouse clicks pus the tap for left click is what I've been doing for 14 years. I agree Emile that the click drag is a stressor. I have been considering some kind of foot pedal for use as a modifier key. I'll have to look at the Elite. Also, I never thought I would get any RSI from using a tablet but I feel some issues going on near my elbow. It took over a decade but I think using the stylus may have eventually caught up with me. Lately I'm using a mouse about 25-30% of the time to switch it up. I'm also considering a larger tablet to shift some of the movement to my shoulder instead of all wrist and elbow. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) < emile@foryourhead.com> wrote: > I found that by far the most stressful action was hold and drag. I got an > Elite foot pedal to mimic the left mouse button and have found it very > helpful. > > > At 9:14 AM -0500 1/4/13, dan monro wrote: > >> I've used a wacom for years. I use the keyboard, however, for as much as >> possible, so I don't miss the third button much at all. I have a (3 button) >> mouse connected for those times I need that functionality (say in Color). >> You can get wacoms with scroll wheels and track pads, etc. >> >> Over the years I've used mice, trackballs, and tablets but always in >> conjunction with the keyboard. I try to vary it as much as possible. If I'm >> doing metadata intensive or repetitive tasks I often switch to the mouse. >> >> I'm lucky in that I vary rooms, so my desk height changes subtly, and I >> use my laptop and desktop systems at the same time, so my hand positions >> change. >> >> A good heavy coffee cup helps, too. A squeeze ball, a dumbbell, maybe >> even a second mouse of a different size. It all seems to relate to >> variation of your body/hand position. >> >> HTH, and good luck with it, >> D >> >> >> On ThursdayJan 32013, at 6:09 PM, scott.aelist wrote: >> >> sorry to bring up this topic again, but I recently have been >>> experiencing some RSI symptoms and I have a couple questions: >>> >>> - to the people who have simply switched mouse hands (right <> left), >>> how do you deal with your keyboard? Do you still use the modifier keys on >>> the left side, or do you switch to the right? if you switch to the right, >>> what do you do about undo (cmd/cntr - Z) copy, paste, select all, redo >>> etc... ? >>> >>> - to those who use a tablet, do you find you still have the same >>> functionality as your 3-button mouse? I rely heavily on mouse buttons, >>> especially for general camera navigation in C4D, and am concerned because >>> the stylus only appears to have 2 buttons. Also, no more scroll-wheel, >>> correct? >>> >>> >> >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >> > > > -- > -- Emile > > If you can walk, you can surely DANCE > > My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/** > 22231918@N06/collections/**72157603627170351/ > > My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/**Tobenfeld > > > > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > --bcaec554df405f55c004d27b8371 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Using the Wacom rocker switch as Right and Middle mouse cl= icks pus the tap for left click is what I've been doing for 14 years. = =A0I agree Emile that the click drag is a stressor. I have been considering= some kind of foot pedal for use as a modifier key. I'll have to look a= t the Elite.=A0

Also, I never thought I would get any RSI from using a= tablet but I feel some issues going on near my elbow. It took over a decad= e but I think using the stylus may have eventually caught up with me. Latel= y I'm using a mouse about 25-30% of the time to switch it up. I'm a= lso considering a larger tablet to shift some of the movement to my shoulde= r instead of all wrist and elbow.


On Fri,= Jan 4, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) &= lt;emile@foryour= head.com> wrote:
I found that by far the most stressful actio= n was hold and drag. I got an Elite foot pedal to mimic the left mouse butt= on and have found it very helpful.


At 9:14 AM -0500 1/4/13, dan monro wrote:
I've used a wacom for years. I use the keyboard, however, for as much a= s possible, so I don't miss the third button much at all. I have a (3 b= utton) mouse connected for those times I need that functionality (say in Co= lor). You can get wacoms with scroll wheels and track pads, etc.

Over the years I've used mice, trackballs, and tablets but always in co= njunction with the keyboard. I try to vary it as much as possible. If I'= ;m doing metadata intensive or repetitive tasks I often switch to the mouse= .

I'm lucky in that I vary rooms, so my desk height changes subtly, and I= use my laptop and desktop systems at the same time, so my hand positions c= hange.

A good heavy coffee cup helps, too. A squeeze ball, a dumbbell, maybe even = a second mouse of a different size. It all seems to relate to variation of = your body/hand position.

HTH, and good luck with it,
D


On ThursdayJan 32013, at 6:09 PM, scott.aelist wrote:

=A0sorry to bring up this topic again, but I recently have been experiencin= g some RSI symptoms and I have a couple questions:

=A0- to the people who have simply switched mouse hands (right <> lef= t), how do you deal with your keyboard? Do you still use the modifier keys = on the left side, or do you switch to the right? if you switch to the right= , what do you do about undo (cmd/cntr - Z) copy, paste, select all, redo et= c... ?

=A0- to those who use a tablet, do you find you still have the same functio= nality as your 3-button mouse? I rely heavily on mouse buttons, especially = for general camera navigation in C4D, and am concerned because the stylus o= nly appears to have 2 buttons. Also, no more scroll-wheel, correct?



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