Return-Path: Received: from mail-qa0-f54.google.com ([209.85.216.54] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4944703 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 21:35:22 +0100 Received: by mail-qa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id j15so104953qaq.6 for ; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 12:40:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=Ci4FEZ4+kYwMlpBcggUNS8iOH4d+SIFAr8z9200WdK8=; b=Ojf7/oHRTqS216scedAFgiWLZm28D/qe0AyfYrUlECYVO2HRSIj6DqWjy1zETYG182 AayFbk8a1KM630M0y06l+msuWo9Ny9/OyraFnebWHUcfz6c1SBXDUmw+8IKu1N60ppsn edEIgC5Uhs2mdNUsKnY18lDc8jPmJ2WASeBFURohoC1HzSz4uePeJQQP3e1jhWVhRztz Bp/dry3ih1ymVlBmUi0tbf5Qw9tpS5g1JniJ+gK42+XWmcE+GqCK0HIfpVjMqhVPIBpJ O0jb1ndioIFqtothwRlHUIa8Fmfv540c9V8LTtfJHCjgeHg/cN9Nb/wCNbrT0p1zON3r JFUA== Received: by 10.229.196.21 with SMTP id ee21mr11582656qcb.110.1357677621834; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 12:40:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.49.106.226 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 12:39:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Teddy Gage Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 15:39:41 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] iMac SSD or Fusion? To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502c06a5e741404d2ccf445 --00504502c06a5e741404d2ccf445 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ah I was confusing the hybrid drive with a fusion drive. I have a fusion drive in my laptop, not a hybrid. similar in principle though. On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 3:11 PM, rendernyc wrote: > > http://www.macworld.com/article/2014011/how-to-make-your-own-fusion-drive.html > > apparently when you format the drives this way osx is supposedly managing > it as a fusion drive. > > Its similar but not the same as a hybrid drive that has a few GB of flash > memory caching files > http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2412726,00.asp > > > > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: > >> I guess that wasn't clear. I was speaking about the single fusion drive >> as a hybrid SSD / HDD being one volume. You can't choose which files go on >> the SSD side of the fusion drive, like you said. NOT that I formatted two >> separate drives as some kind of JBOD. I wonder if that would even be >> possible... >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:56 PM, rendernyc wrote: >> >>> You installed an SSD as well as a conventional disk and formatted as one >>> volume? >>> Any reason that you didnt keep them separate? >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: >>> >>>> I have a fusion drive in my mid 2010 mbp (after the original hdd went >>>> kaboom). It is meant primarily as an OS drive, as the OS seems to keep the >>>> startup files on ssd partition for extremely fast booting. (although not as >>>> fast as my girlfriend's 2012 macbook air with ssd) As Danny said, there's >>>> no way to control which data goes where on the disk. for the user it's seen >>>> as a single volume. However it has made my mac feel significantly faster >>>> and I consider it a great upgrade, for an OS drive in a laptop. Not so much >>>> as a cache / project drive though. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:36 PM, rendernyc wrote: >>>> >>>>> The OS determines whats on the SSD. its completely transparent to the >>>>> user. >>>>> If you want to use an SSD for the AE cache there is no way to set >>>>> unless you have a discreet SSD. >>>>> >>>>> i work at a place where they put an SSD in an external TB case and >>>>> have it mounted to the back of the imac and thunderbolt connected, so thats >>>>> an option as well. >>>>> >>>>> If you have an extra system that you want to see how it may work there >>>>> apparently is a way from the terminal to make your HD and SSD one volume >>>>> and OSX will manage it as a fusion drive. i have it tried it so ymmv... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.macworld.com/article/2014011/how-to-make-your-own-fusion-drive.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Brian Klein wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm curious if anyone has played with the fusion drive set-up in a >>>>>> production environment on the new iMacs? We're debating on whether or not >>>>>> we want to spend the extra $1,000 on an SSD or not. I'd prefer to do it >>>>>> that way, but the budgeteers want to save the money... :) >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm mostly wondering how well it'll work with an AE cache? And if you >>>>>> can determine what is installed on the SSD in the fusion drive setup. for >>>>>> instance, I have a ton of apps that I really don't care if they are on the >>>>>> SSD or not, I just want my pro apps on the SSD, and then use the remaining >>>>>> space for the AE cache. >>>>>> >>>>>> Brian Klein >>>>>> Video Editor and Motion Graphics Artist >>>>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >>>>>> StoneArch >>>>>> stonearchcreative.com >>>>>> twitter: @kleinbc >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> danny princz >>>>> >>>>> exposedideas.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Animator & Editor >>>> www.teddygage.com >>>> Brooklyn >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> danny princz >>> >>> exposedideas.com >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Animator & Editor >> www.teddygage.com >> Brooklyn >> > > > > -- > danny princz > > exposedideas.com > -- Animator & Editor www.teddygage.com Brooklyn --00504502c06a5e741404d2ccf445 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ah I was confusing the hybrid drive with a fusion drive. I have a fusion dr= ive in my laptop, not a hybrid. similar in principle though.

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 3:11 PM, rendernyc <rendernyc= @gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.macworld.com/article/2014011/how-to-make-your-own-fusion-= drive.html

apparently when you format the drives this way osx is s= upposedly managing it as a fusion drive.

Its similar but not the same as a hybrid drive that has= a few GB of flash memory caching files


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On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at = 3:01 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote:
I guess that wasn't clear. I was speakin= g about the single fusion drive as a hybrid SSD / HDD being one volume. You= can't choose which files go on the SSD side of the fusion drive, like = you said. NOT that I formatted two separate drives as some kind of JBOD. I = wonder if that would even be possible...


On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:56 PM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> wrote:
You installed an SSD as well as a conventional disk and fo= rmatted as one volume?
Any reason that you didnt keep them separate?


On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
=A0I have a fusion drive in my mid 2010 mbp = (after the original hdd went kaboom). It is meant primarily as an OS drive,= as the OS seems to keep the startup files on ssd partition for extremely f= ast booting. (although not as fast as my girlfriend's 2012 macbook air = with ssd) As Danny said, there's no way to control which data goes wher= e on the disk. for the user it's seen as a single volume. However it ha= s made my mac feel significantly faster and I consider it a great upgrade, = for an OS drive in a laptop. Not so much as a cache / project drive though.= =A0

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:36 PM, rendernyc <rendernyc@gmail.com> wrote:
The OS determines whats on the SSD. its completely transpa= rent to the user.
If you want to use an SSD for the AE cache there is n= o way to set unless you have a discreet SSD.

i work at a place where they put an SSD in an external TB case and hav= e it mounted to the back of the imac and thunderbolt connected, so thats an= option as well.

If you have an extra system that = you want to see how it may work there apparently is a way from the terminal= to make your HD and SSD one volume and OSX will manage it as a fusion driv= e. i have it tried it so ymmv...






On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:21 PM, = Brian Klein <briancklein1@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm curious if anyone h= as played with the fusion drive set-up in a production environment on the n= ew iMacs? We're debating on whether or not we want to spend the extra $= 1,000 on an SSD or not. I'd prefer to do it that way, but the budgeteer= s want to save the money... :)

I'm mostly wondering how well it'll work with an AE = cache? And if you can determine what is installed on the SSD in the fusion = drive setup. for instance, I have a ton of apps that I really don't car= e if they are on the SSD or not, I just want my pro apps on the SSD, and th= en use the remaining space for the AE cache.

Brian Klein
Video Editor and Motion= Graphics Artist
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .= =A0
StoneArch
twitter: @kleinbc




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