Return-Path: Received: from gateway12.websitewelcome.com ([70.85.6.2] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4945572 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 18:23:29 +0100 Received: by gateway12.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 5007) id CDEC9B6F5D6D7; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 11:28:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from alpina.websitewelcome.com (alpina.websitewelcome.com [74.54.176.2]) by gateway12.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A130FB6F5D611 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 11:28:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from [199.21.106.72] (port=60452 helo=[192.168.0.25]) by alpina.websitewelcome.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TszS3-0006Hb-En for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 11:28:31 -0600 From: Chris Meyer Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_550D5EB6-7908-4C1D-93A8-E5684351E894" Subject: Re: [AE] Ray traced 3D extrusion render time Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 10:28:32 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - alpina.websitewelcome.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - crishdesign.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: ([192.168.0.25]) [199.21.106.72]:60452 X-Source-Auth: chris@crishdesign.com X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: Y3Jpc2h3ZWI7Y3Jpc2h3ZWI7YWxwaW5hLndlYnNpdGV3ZWxjb21lLmNvbQ== --Apple-Mail=_550D5EB6-7908-4C1D-93A8-E5684351E894 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I was remiss in not including the link to the Adobe After Effects Tech = Specs page: http://www.adobe.com/products/aftereffects/tech-specs.html There have also been a few threads on this about getting = Windows-supported cards to live inside MacPros. This is an issue many are touchy about, because most older generation = Macs came with ATI cards or chips, and therefore are not accelerated, = meaning the answer for may has been either get a new video card, or get = a new computer. Even high end users such as Stu Maschwitz has complained = long and hard about how their slightly older MacBook Pros take forever = to render ray-traced 3D, since they have ATI chips. And we have an older = generation 17" MacBook with an NVIDIA chip, but it doesn't have enough = VRAM. Because of this, most experienced users who have written or = recorded videos about ray-traced 3D in CS6 have taken pains to point out = this issue. As a side note, be careful about confusing issues: Global Performance = Cache and Ray-traced 3D are not directly linked. GPC is about saving, = quickly retrieving, and displaying frames you've already rendered. It = doesn't speed up rendering frames that have not already been rendered - = which is where RT3D acceleration comes in. - Chris On Jan 9, 2013, at 9:58 AM, Peter Mock wrote: > Thank you for the answer Chris and my apologies for resenting my = request. > There was a problem with my subscription and I didn't receive the = answers > Before. >=20 > On 9 Jan 2013, at 16:13, Chris Meyer wrote: >=20 >> The video card/chip makes all the difference in the world. If it's = not on the Adobe approved list of NVIDIA CUDA-accelerated GPUs, then = it's going to be many times slower. >>=20 >> - Chris >>=20 >>=20 >> On Jan 9, 2013, at 3:15 AM, Peter Mock wrote: >>=20 >>> Hello Guys, >>> I am exploring the new ray traced 3D extrusion feature in AE6. I am = very excited about it=20 >>> and was a little irritated because of the enormous render time (over = 5hours for only 10s) >>> I was irritated because after watching Brian Maffitt's 'Global = performance cache' tutorial on=20 >>> Adobe TV = http://tv.adobe.com/watch/learn-after-effects-cs6/global-performance-cache= / >>> I was under the impression that the days of long renders are over. >>> Am I missing something here?? I am running AE6 on a MacBook Pro Mid = 2009, 2.66Ghz, >>> dual Core with 8 GB RAM >>> You can watch the movie on: >>> http://vimeo.com/56914935 >>>=20 >>> I am grateful for any suggestion >>> Thank you >>> Peter >>=20 --Apple-Mail=_550D5EB6-7908-4C1D-93A8-E5684351E894 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I was = remiss in not including the link to the Adobe After Effects Tech Specs = page:

There = have also been a few threads on this about getting Windows-supported = cards to live inside MacPros.

This is an issue = many are touchy about, because most older generation Macs came with ATI = cards or chips, and therefore are not accelerated, meaning the answer = for may has been either get a new video card, or get a new computer. = Even high end users such as Stu Maschwitz has complained long and hard = about how their slightly older MacBook Pros take forever to render = ray-traced 3D, since they have ATI chips. And we have an older = generation 17" MacBook with an NVIDIA chip, but it doesn't have enough = VRAM. Because of this, most experienced users who have written or = recorded videos about ray-traced 3D in CS6 have taken pains to point out = this issue.

As a side note, be careful about = confusing issues: Global Performance Cache and Ray-traced 3D are not = directly linked. GPC is about saving, quickly retrieving, and displaying = frames you've already rendered. It doesn't speed up rendering = frames that have not already been rendered - which is where RT3D = acceleration comes in.

 - = Chris


On Jan 9, 2013, at 9:58 AM, = Peter Mock wrote:

Thank you for the answer Chris = and my apologies for resenting my request.
There was a problem = with my subscription and I didn't receive the = answers
Before.

On 9 Jan 2013, at 16:13, Chris = Meyer <chris@crishdesign.com> = wrote:

The video card/chip = makes all the difference in the world. If it's not on the Adobe approved = list of NVIDIA CUDA-accelerated GPUs, then it's going to be many times = slower.

 - = Chris


On Jan 9, 2013, at 3:15 AM, = Peter Mock wrote:

Hello = Guys,
I am exploring the new ray traced 3D extrusion feature in AE6. = I am very excited about it 
and was a little = irritated because of the enormous render time (over 5hours for only = 10s)
I was irritated because after watching Brian Maffitt's = 'Global performance cache' tutorial on 
I was under the impression that the days of = long renders are over.
Am I missing something here?? I am = running AE6 on a MacBook Pro Mid 2009, 2.66Ghz,
dual Core with = 8 GB RAM
You can watch the movie on:

I am grateful for any suggestion
Thank = you
Peter


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