Return-Path: Received: from st11p02mm-asmtp002.mac.com ([17.172.220.237] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4945604 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 18:36:56 +0100 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_rh74bsP5e9rV8DSvwLUaPA)" Received: from [192.168.1.104] ([141.0.148.227]) by st11p02mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MGD00IX1D5K2L80@st11p02mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 17:41:49 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-01-09_07:2013-01-09,2013-01-09,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1301090145 From: Peter Mock Message-id: Subject: Re: [AE] Ray traced 3D extrusion render time Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 17:41:43 +0000 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-reply-to: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) --Boundary_(ID_rh74bsP5e9rV8DSvwLUaPA) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thank you Chris. What a shame I am using a MacBook Pro 2009 with 8GB ram which is a very stable and reliable workhorse .... I guess i will upgrade soon ;-) Peter On 9 Jan 2013, at 17:28, Chris Meyer wrote: > I was remiss in not including the link to the Adobe After Effects Tech Specs page: > > http://www.adobe.com/products/aftereffects/tech-specs.html > There have also been a few threads on this about getting Windows-supported cards to live inside MacPros. > > This is an issue many are touchy about, because most older generation Macs came with ATI cards or chips, and therefore are not accelerated, meaning the answer for may has been either get a new video card, or get a new computer. Even high end users such as Stu Maschwitz has complained long and hard about how their slightly older MacBook Pros take forever to render ray-traced 3D, since they have ATI chips. And we have an older generation 17" MacBook with an NVIDIA chip, but it doesn't have enough VRAM. Because of this, most experienced users who have written or recorded videos about ray-traced 3D in CS6 have taken pains to point out this issue. > > As a side note, be careful about confusing issues: Global Performance Cache and Ray-traced 3D are not directly linked. GPC is about saving, quickly retrieving, and displaying frames you've already rendered. It doesn't speed up rendering frames that have not already been rendered - which is where RT3D acceleration comes in. > > - Chris > > > On Jan 9, 2013, at 9:58 AM, Peter Mock wrote: > >> Thank you for the answer Chris and my apologies for resenting my request. >> There was a problem with my subscription and I didn't receive the answers >> Before. >> >> On 9 Jan 2013, at 16:13, Chris Meyer wrote: >> >>> The video card/chip makes all the difference in the world. If it's not on the Adobe approved list of NVIDIA CUDA-accelerated GPUs, then it's going to be many times slower. >>> >>> - Chris >>> >>> >>> On Jan 9, 2013, at 3:15 AM, Peter Mock wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Guys, >>>> I am exploring the new ray traced 3D extrusion feature in AE6. I am very excited about it >>>> and was a little irritated because of the enormous render time (over 5hours for only 10s) >>>> I was irritated because after watching Brian Maffitt's 'Global performance cache' tutorial on >>>> Adobe TV http://tv.adobe.com/watch/learn-after-effects-cs6/global-performance-cache/ >>>> I was under the impression that the days of long renders are over. >>>> Am I missing something here?? I am running AE6 on a MacBook Pro Mid 2009, 2.66Ghz, >>>> dual Core with 8 GB RAM >>>> You can watch the movie on: >>>> http://vimeo.com/56914935 >>>> >>>> I am grateful for any suggestion >>>> Thank you >>>> Peter >>> > --Boundary_(ID_rh74bsP5e9rV8DSvwLUaPA) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Thank = you Chris. What a shame I am using a MacBook Pro 2009 with 8GB = ram 
which is a very stable and reliable workhorse .... I guess = i will upgrade soon ;-)
Peter

On 9 Jan = 2013, at 17:28, Chris Meyer <chris@crishdesign.com> = wrote:

I was remiss in not = including the link to the Adobe After Effects Tech Specs = page:

There = have also been a few threads on this about getting Windows-supported = cards to live inside MacPros.

This is an issue = many are touchy about, because most older generation Macs came with ATI = cards or chips, and therefore are not accelerated, meaning the answer = for may has been either get a new video card, or get a new computer. = Even high end users such as Stu Maschwitz has complained long and hard = about how their slightly older MacBook Pros take forever to render = ray-traced 3D, since they have ATI chips. And we have an older = generation 17" MacBook with an NVIDIA chip, but it doesn't have enough = VRAM. Because of this, most experienced users who have written or = recorded videos about ray-traced 3D in CS6 have taken pains to point out = this issue.

As a side note, be careful about = confusing issues: Global Performance Cache and Ray-traced 3D are not = directly linked. GPC is about saving, quickly retrieving, and displaying = frames you've already rendered. It doesn't speed up rendering = frames that have not already been rendered - which is where RT3D = acceleration comes in.

 - = Chris


On Jan 9, 2013, at 9:58 AM, = Peter Mock wrote:

Thank you for the answer Chris = and my apologies for resenting my request.
There was a problem = with my subscription and I didn't receive the = answers
Before.

On 9 Jan 2013, at 16:13, Chris = Meyer <chris@crishdesign.com> = wrote:

The video card/chip makes = all the difference in the world. If it's not on the Adobe approved list = of NVIDIA CUDA-accelerated GPUs, then it's going to be many times = slower.

 - = Chris


On Jan 9, 2013, at 3:15 AM, = Peter Mock wrote:

Hello = Guys,
I am exploring the new ray traced 3D extrusion feature in AE6. = I am very excited about it 
and was a little = irritated because of the enormous render time (over 5hours for only = 10s)
I was irritated because after watching Brian Maffitt's = 'Global performance cache' tutorial on 
I was under the impression that the days of = long renders are over.
Am I missing something here?? I am = running AE6 on a MacBook Pro Mid 2009, 2.66Ghz,
dual Core with = 8 GB RAM
You can watch the movie on:

I am grateful for any suggestion
Thank = you
Peter

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