Return-Path: Received: from [67.18.68.8] (HELO gateway11.websitewelcome.com) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4946818 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 03:25:17 +0100 Received: by gateway11.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 5011) id 0938387F66CF; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:30:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from gator1184.hostgator.com (gator1184.hostgator.com [174.121.151.98]) by gateway11.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF67E87F66A2 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:30:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from [24.163.5.74] (port=53280 helo=Neptune) by gator1184.hostgator.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TtUNx-0002yY-DJ for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:30:21 -0600 Reply-To: From: "Stephen van Vuuren" To: "'After Effects Mail List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [AE] Real life lens flares Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 21:30:06 -0500 Organization: SV2 Studios Message-ID: <00e901cdefa3$922701b0$b6750510$@sv2studios.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00EA_01CDEF79.A951BD00" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQJCK0QyqfE3QCHCQEHT8mrFXfiNkpda7xAg Content-Language: en-us X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator1184.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - sv2studios.com X-BWhitelist: yes X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: (Neptune) [24.163.5.74]:53280 X-Source-Auth: stephen@sv2studios.com X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: c3RlcGhlbnY7c3RlcGhlbnY7Z2F0b3IxMTg0Lmhvc3RnYXRvci5jb20= This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00EA_01CDEF79.A951BD00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > You can't beat the real thing though. Agree completely. That's one of the major issues with my space film for IMAX built off photographs. In creating shots with the sun, the photographs of the sun in high resolution don't have any flaring due to the lenses and cameras use but we expect to see them. Since the whole film is CGI-less (from the standpoint of creating any image data beyond what is present in the photographs), the shots currently look odd without lens flares. But added a CGI flare from one the many fine plugs available not only violates the principles of the film, but reveals how much not like the real thing they in fact are. I also recently watched "Alien" on bluray and marveled how much better and natural the real flares are vs. JJ Abrams flareporn. I do think it would be possible to improve the current flare plugin by using physic-based naturalist modeling. But for my project, I would love to get an ISS astronaut to mount a camera to tripod and shoot a multishot HDR composite of sun flares for my film as the plugs fail when combined with real footage, in my view. stephen van vuuren 336.202.4777 http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ http://www.sv2dcp.com/ http://www.sv2studios.com/ A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later. -Stanley Kubrick ------=_NextPart_000_00EA_01CDEF79.A951BD00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> You can't beat the real thing though.

Agree completely. That’s one of the major issues with my space = film for IMAX built off photographs. In creating shots with the sun, the = photographs of the sun in high resolution don’t have any flaring = due to the lenses and cameras use but we expect to see them. Since the = whole film is CGI-less (from the standpoint of creating any image data = beyond what is present in the photographs), the shots currently look odd = without lens flares.

But added a CGI flare from one the many fine plugs available not = only violates the principles of the film, but reveals how much not like = the real thing they in fact are. I also recently watched = “Alien” on bluray and marveled how much better and natural = the real flares are vs. JJ Abrams flareporn.

I do think it would be possible to improve the current flare plugin = by using physic-based naturalist modeling.

But for my project, I would love to get an ISS astronaut to mount a = camera to tripod and shoot a multishot HDR composite of sun flares for = my film as the plugs fail when combined with real footage, in my = view.

stephen van vuuren

336.202.4777

http://www.insaturnsrings.com/=

http://www.sv2dcp.com/<= /b>

http://www.sv2studios.com/<= /span>

A film is – or should be – more like music than like = fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, = what’s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes = later.

–Stanley Kubrick

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