Return-Path: Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net ([207.145.128.243] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4964066 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 01 Feb 2013 08:32:20 +0100 Received: from mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.39]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5B9A71A6A for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 02:38:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 10277 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2013 07:38:04 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 25033, pid: 16790, t: 3.4788s scanners: clamav: m: Received: from c-67-185-28-214.hsd1.wa.comcast.net (HELO [192.168.1.125]) (albion@[67.185.28.214]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Feb 2013 07:38:00 -0000 From: James Culbertson Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_1AD36FC1-5877-44BC-ADCF-F1C5E44F6CAB" Subject: Re: [AE] The History of Adobe After Effects Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:37:55 -0800 In-Reply-To: To: After Effects Mail List References: Message-Id: <5162E6B4-CD4F-4F3D-8BD3-160292E4434D@speakeasy.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail1.sea5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=8.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 --Apple-Mail=_1AD36FC1-5877-44BC-ADCF-F1C5E44F6CAB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 You are describing film/video Production in general. And film/video = production is now just another literacy, like writing, that people grow = up with. So, yes, there are a lot of folks who just start doing it, and = we are awash in competition. There is a tremendous amount of = incompetence. But at the same time if you have the potential for talent = you are not excluded by inaccessibility to tools. I'll take the trade = off. I find today to be just as exciting a time as the 90's were. James On Jan 31, 2013, at 11:03 PM, mylenium@mylenium.de wrote: > You're talking like people at the retirement home getting all = sentimental... ;-) Things will never be the same. AE has arrived at = being "just another software" that is being used by more people with no = talent or skills than by ones who actually intimately know it. It's just = the way it is, sadly... > =20 > Mylenium > =20 > [Pour Myl=E8ne, ange sur terre]=20 > -----------------------------------------=20 > www.mylenium.de >=20 > Jim Lang hat am 1. Februar 2013 um 06:29 = geschrieben:=20 > > Darn- Totally missed it.=20 > > I've been thinking about the AE history lately. I was at a pottery=20= > > workshop, and=20 > > the teacher kept telling us that if anyone asked "how'd you do = that!"=20 > > To say you don't remember.=20 > > This got me thinking about how in the beginnings of AE, that anal,=20= > > secretiveness was the polar opposite and you could go online any = time=20 > > day or night, and a Trish Meyer would always help out. Or a = TSassoon,=20 > > or a Brian Maffitt. And "secrets" were taboo. And because of that,=20= > > AE took off, attracted geniuses from all over, and and made history = of=20 > > all of the old guard dinosaurs and their secrets and high-end=20 > > equipment.=20 > > That was a dazzling era.=20 > > Of course, nothing this great lasts.=20 > > I've been at this long enough to be able to tell the ethics of a=20 > > worker by just looking at his/her profect. One of the last projects = I=20 > > worked in was unbelievably booby trapped. It was for a fast=20 > > turnaround network news show, and the dude did certain things wrong=20= > > then sneakily made layers invisible. All designed to get the=20 > > producers on t=20 > > he phone to get him back. I pointed out all of his shenanigans to = the=20 > > creative director. But back to the point. Way back in the early=20 > > beginnings, what a classy group.=20 > >=20 > > > On Jan 30, 2013, at 11:46 PM, David Simons wrote:=20 > > >=20 > > >> In case this event tomorrow hasn't been posted on this list yet:=20= > > >>=20 > > >> ASK A VIDEO PRO: The History of Adobe After Effects=20 > > >>=20 > > >> Thursday, January 31st, 2013 at 10:00am PST=20 > > >>=20 > > >> REGISTER NOW: http://adobe.ly/p6ZMbd=20 > > >>=20 > > >> About 12 hours from now, Dan Wilk & I will present an interactive = history of=20 > > >> AE, including demos of the old versions. We welcome questions = from the=20 > > >> audience via the chat pod.=20 > > >>=20 > > >> -DaveS=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >> +---End of message---+=20 > > >> To unsubscribe send any message to =20= > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > +---End of message---+=20 > > > To unsubscribe send any message to =20= > >=20 > > +---End of message---+=20 > > To unsubscribe send any message to --Apple-Mail=_1AD36FC1-5877-44BC-ADCF-F1C5E44F6CAB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 mylenium@mylenium.de = wrote:
 
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Jim = Lang <james.c.lang@gmail.com> = hat am 1. Februar 2013 um 06:29 geschrieben: 
> Darn- Totally = missed it. 
> = I've been thinking about the AE history lately. I was at a pottery 
> workshop, and 
> the teacher kept = telling us that if anyone asked "how'd you do that!" 
> To say you don't = remember. 
> = This got me thinking about how in the beginnings of AE, that anal, 
> secretiveness was = the polar opposite and you could go online any time 
> day or night, and = a Trish Meyer would always help out. Or a TSassoon, 
> or a Brian = Maffitt. And "secrets" were taboo. And because of that, 
> AE took off, = attracted geniuses from all over, and and made history of 
> all of the old = guard dinosaurs and their secrets and high-end 
> equipment. 
> That was a = dazzling era. 
> = Of course, nothing this great lasts. 
> I've been at this = long enough to be able to tell the ethics of a 
> worker by just = looking at his/her profect. One of the last projects I 
> worked in was = unbelievably booby trapped. It was for a fast 
> turnaround network = news show, and the dude did certain things wrong 
> then sneakily made = layers invisible. All designed to get the 
> producers on = t 
> he phone to = get him back. I pointed out all of his shenanigans to the 
> creative director. = But back to the point. Way back in the early 
> beginnings, what a = classy group. 
> 
> > On Jan 30, = 2013, at 11:46 PM, David Simons <ae@cosa.com> wrote: 
> > 
> >> In case = this event tomorrow hasn't been posted on this list yet: 
> >> 
> >> ASK A = VIDEO PRO: The History of Adobe After Effects 
> >> 
> >> Thursday, = January 31st, 2013 at 10:00am PST 
> >> 
> >> REGISTER = NOW: http://adobe.ly/p6ZMbd 
> >> 
> >> About 12 = hours from now, Dan Wilk & I will present an interactive history = of 
> >> = AE, including demos of the old versions. We welcome questions from = the 
> >> = audience via the chat pod. 
> >> 
> >> = -DaveS 
> = >> 
> = >> 
> = >> 
> = >> +---End of message---+ 
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> = > 
> = > 
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