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[71.63.186.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id xn10sm15865045igb.4.2013.02.04.09.32.32 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Feb 2013 09:32:33 -0800 (PST) From: Carey Dissmore Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E917287F-2554-4E38-A7EE-CA54C5349745" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: [AE] New MacBook Pro Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 11:32:31 -0600 References: To: "After Effects Mail List" In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmEkyw6t7OsOXYH78uJ7YzKNDzjWM57XEYCu6BupIcMah6+PA4tUScYdr9ZUdG26v5kymZU --Apple-Mail=_E917287F-2554-4E38-A7EE-CA54C5349745 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I recently went with the entry level 2.3 ghz Ivy bridge Quad-core i7 15" = Retina to bump my aging 2010 13" core 2 duo 2.4 MBP which was pretty = much useless for production (even though I had an SSD boot drive plus a = 1TB internal HD--having yanked out the DVD drive). While I'm still a "big iron" guy doing most production on a workstation = machine that has *real* power, I have to say I'm fairly impressed with = the punch this MBP packs for AE and PPro with mobility in mind. = Definitely getting a good CUDA boost on this one (compared to prior = laptops). Downsides for me are merely 8GB RAM and no way to get more = without replacing the machine (I use 64GB on the desktop) and 256GB = internal SSD with no reasonable/affordable way to add more inside. If = this were intended to be my primary machine I would need more RAM and = internal storage which really bumps the $$$ at today's pricing. Retina: It's very nice but don't think it's quite a make-or-break = feature in terms of getting work done. Having said that I will reiterate = it is very nice. I actually have seen the tearing/refresh issue when = scrolling web pages a few times but no issues (yet--it's early = days--haven't done too much in them yet) that I've observed in PPro or = AE.=20 I've decided to run with it as is and have the FW800 adapter for some = large spinning disk drives but also set up an SSD in an external USB 3.0 = enclosure to get me more data portability with high speed. Overall nice = package. FWIW. Carey On Feb 4, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Teddy Gage wrote: > The 2.9 ghz 13" MBP will be only marginally faster (like 10-20%) than = your current machine (which is the exact model I currently have and work = on) - not only that but the graphics performance will actually be worse = considering it only has integrated graphics card. Certain plugins will = actually run slower on it. You would be much better off getting a 15" = core i7 quad MBP, with 16 GB RAM. It is more than 2x faster than your = current laptop according to most benchmarks, and like brian said, is the = only version with an Nvidia CUDA card for speeding up AE raytracing and = plugins.=20 >=20 > As for retina, I am holding off for one more generation, as a lot of = reviews say the retina pushes so many pixels there can be a significant = "chugginess" when performing certain tasks, because of the screen = drawing demands. Especially, oddly enough, when browsing the web. >=20 > Here is my recommendation - Either get the best laptop you can afford = so it's not obsolete in two years, or save yourself a few thousand and = put an SSD and 4GB more RAM in your current laptop, for less than $500, = and it will seem like a new computer. I did this a year ago and it's = really like having a new laptop. Consider yourself lucky the mid 2010's = are so easily upgraded (unlike all new model MBPs). And even if you are = not comfortable doing it yourself there should be a place that can do it = for you. Look on www.macsales.com they have all kinds of upgrade kits = with video instructions and the proper tools. It's really not difficult = at all.=20 >=20 > On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Michele L Yamazaki = wrote: > Hi Everyone >=20 > I am going to buy a new MacBook Pro today. I need something that can = run CS6 speedily and CS7 when its out. I usually keep a laptop 2-3 = years. I will mainly be using this to demo plug-ins at user groups and = events and when I'm on the road. I have a 2010 model, 15" core i7 w/ 4GB = RAM and it just chugs with AE CS6, and with all the plug-ins that I need = to keep installed, it's just not cutting it. >=20 > So, today I'm going to buy a new one. I'm considering getting a 13" = 2.9 GHz dual core i7 with 8GB memory. I wonder if stepping down from a = 15" to a 13" will be a big deal? I used to run a 17"! I didn't notice = the screen size difference much but the weight difference was huge.=20 >=20 > I'm wondering if any of you are running AE CS6 on one of these or can = recommend a what I should get with it? Does it run pretty smoothly, not = chugging along? Any issues with plugging it into projection systems? = Retina display or no? The retina displays are only 2.5Ghz core i5 on the = 13". A friend of mine says not to get the retina display but I don't = remember why he said not to. >=20 > Thanks in advance for your help. I am not really a hardware person and = I just don't know what to choose! >=20 > Thanks, > Michele Yamazaki > Toolfarm Inc.: http://www.toolfarm.com >=20 > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/toolfarm > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/toolfarm > Vimeo: http://www.vimeo.com/toolfarm > Plug-In to After Effects: http://www.pluginz.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Animator & Editor > www.teddygage.com > Brooklyn --Apple-Mail=_E917287F-2554-4E38-A7EE-CA54C5349745 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 I = recently went with the entry level 2.3 ghz Ivy bridge Quad-core i7 15" = Retina to bump my aging 2010 13" core 2 duo 2.4 MBP which was pretty = much useless for production (even though I had an SSD boot drive plus a = 1TB internal HD--having yanked out the DVD = drive).

While I'm still a "big iron" guy doing most = production on a workstation machine that has *real* power, I have to say = I'm fairly impressed with the punch this MBP packs for AE and PPro with = mobility in mind. Definitely getting a good CUDA boost on this one = (compared to prior laptops). Downsides for me are merely 8GB RAM =  and no way to get more without replacing the machine (I use 64GB = on the desktop) and 256GB internal SSD with no reasonable/affordable way = to add more inside. If this were intended to be my primary machine I = would need more RAM and internal storage which really bumps the $$$ at = today's pricing.

Retina: It's very nice but = don't think it's quite a make-or-break feature in terms of getting work = done. Having said that I will reiterate it is very nice. I actually have = seen the tearing/refresh issue when scrolling web pages a few times but = no issues (yet--it's early days--haven't done too much in them yet) that = I've observed in PPro or AE. 

I've decided = to run with it as is and have the FW800 adapter for some large spinning = disk drives but also set up an SSD in an external USB 3.0 enclosure to = get me more data portability with high speed. Overall nice package. = FWIW.

Carey


On Feb 4, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> = wrote:

The 2.9 ghz 13" MBP will be only marginally faster (like = 10-20%) than your current machine (which is the exact model I currently = have and work on) - not only that but the graphics performance will = actually be worse considering it only has integrated graphics card. = Certain plugins will actually run slower on it. You would be much better = off getting a 15" core i7 quad MBP, with 16 GB RAM. It is more than 2x = faster than your current laptop according to most benchmarks, and like = brian said, is the only version with an Nvidia CUDA card for speeding up = AE raytracing and plugins.

As for retina, I am holding off for one more generation, as a lot of = reviews say the retina pushes so many pixels there can be a significant = "chugginess" when performing certain tasks, because of the screen = drawing demands. Especially, oddly enough, when browsing the web.

Here is my recommendation - Either get the best laptop you can = afford so it's not obsolete in two years, or save yourself a few = thousand and put an SSD and 4GB more RAM in your current laptop, for = less than $500, and it will seem like a new computer. I did this a year = ago and it's really like having a new laptop. Consider yourself lucky = the mid 2010's are so easily upgraded (unlike all new model MBPs). And = even if you are not comfortable doing it yourself there should be a = place that can do it for you. Look on www.macsales.com they have all = kinds of upgrade kits with video instructions and the proper tools. It's = really not difficult at all.

On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Michele = L Yamazaki <michele@toolfarm.com> = wrote:
Hi Everyone

I am = going to buy a new MacBook Pro today.  I need something that can = run CS6 speedily and CS7 when its out. I usually keep a laptop 2-3 = years. I will mainly be using this to demo plug-ins at user groups and = events and when I'm on the road. I have a 2010 model, 15" core i7 w/ 4GB = RAM and it just chugs with AE CS6, and with all the plug-ins that I need = to keep installed, it's just not cutting it.

So, today I'm going to buy a new one. I'm = considering getting a 13" 2.9 GHz dual core i7 with 8GB memory. I wonder = if stepping down from a 15" to a 13" will be a big deal? I used to run a = 17"! I didn't notice the screen size difference much but the weight = difference was huge. 

I'm wondering if any of you are running AE CS6 on = one of these or can recommend a what I should get with it? Does it run = pretty smoothly, not chugging along? Any issues with plugging it into = projection systems? Retina display or no? The retina displays are only = 2.5Ghz core i5 on the 13". A friend of mine says not to get the retina = display but I don't remember why he said not to.

Thanks in advance for your help. I am not really a = hardware person and I just don't know what to = choose!

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