Return-Path: Received: from [208.97.132.5] (HELO homiemail-a37.g.dreamhost.com) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 4968685 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 07:34:27 +0100 Received: from homiemail-a37.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a37.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961BE208069 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 22:40:20 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=influxx.com; h=mime-version :in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:from:subject :date:to; q=dns; s=influxx.com; b=cDN1G1W8gg8OeaUNVUyYO2nSofNZe3 U/Ql2ZBCu8F3N4w5JuZm2NqkydW1DJwmbjKXJMFLssvA4B1Y0J4jJB8U0RPHpSs5 9x13UyqM7HtODhhPcjPNQDevRKFwqs+C1Q73yA2EnHd96E3KJaqVD09xyCNObwWk uAxP7rX7Ek2+s= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=influxx.com; h= mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:from :subject:date:to; s=influxx.com; bh=NgV5/vx5UPHztOU2h2+l8RhUGXo= ; b=W/GsaSplvbeHeJshu+GuGuiq8MVQiOOqyre4L4ojhKqQ+Uiieaqb6CcLsRwT Ppg8vtD+BE1OviwO/4mqzcqwzz8R6ZlRAA82WajOWUBm22DMrjd2wEZavvRK7IHZ h1M8yfDz0Tc5zdvk35O/bIVNTRRrWiTvWT6DG/euq+wfnA8= Received: from [192.168.1.71] (76-206-254-56.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net [76.206.254.56]) (Authenticated sender: adam@influxx.com) by homiemail-a37.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 281E4208061 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 22:40:20 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--426470916 Message-Id: <2C77E2E1-B214-4EF3-B51D-36CADC41C4F8@influxx.com> From: adam mercado Subject: Re: [AE] plug-in moving Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 22:40:18 -0800 To: "After Effects Mail List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) --Apple-Mail-2--426470916 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed I've had lots of problems with Adobe's plug in management lately. For =20= some reason several lug-ins managed to get installed into the App =20 Support folder, and into the After Effects/Plug Ins folder. I guess =20 if you install the version for Premeir and the version for AE =20 separately maybe...But I would turn on AE or Prem and go get a cup of =20= tea, return to my desk not to find the app booted and ready to work, =20 but hung at a stupid dialog box telling me I had duplicates and blah =20 blah blah. Anyhow I foolishly tried to manage the situation myself (and you know =20= how Adobe, like Apple, HATES to relinquish control of anything to do =20 with its software) by moving the plug ins out of the App Support =20 folder. Since then I got hangs at the boot screen. I moved all the PIs back into the APp Support folder, even ones that =20 were not there before, and emptied the AE PI folder, and that =20 bollocked things up even more; some PIs would not be found, some =20 still showed the duplicate message. So annoying. I've found the Abobe =20= bloat in its support file structure to puzzling. I'll admit to =20 knowing nothing about software development, but there is no other =20 publisher I deal with that creates such bloat. It seems really =20 inefficient. And the plug in management feels indicative of this. =20 Why does it matter how many of the same PI I have installed, load the =20= first one and ignore the rest. And why are there multiple ways to =20 install a PI; pick a method and go with it. Save the confusion. Audio =20= VSTs are handled this way. They only go in the VST folder in the =20 Library. Done. I always know where to go look for troublesome VSTs =20 and I never ever get duplicates. Adam Mercado Influxx Media Production Fullerton, CA Moving Images. For Business 714=B0928=B09896 http://www.influxx.com http://www.twitter.com/influxx http://www.linkedin.com/in/influxx http://influxx.tumblr.com/archive http://www.flickr.com/photos/influxx On Feb 5, 2013, at 12:35 PM, patrick Siemer wrote: > a couple weeks ago I had a painfully.....long.... =20 > plugin.....loading....experience........with.........Media........Enco=20= > der. > I seriously dreaded opening it again. > But I have had no further problems. > It may be just a one time wait for indexing or something like =20 > that. if that is what happened to scare you. > I would give it another chance. > by all means abort them if it continues. > Just guessing here, sorry. > I will try to avoid needless conjecture in the future. > > > patrick siemer > tapeandglue.com > > > On Feb 5, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Jack Tunnicliffe wrote > >> I don't think you'll have any issues. I occasionally move my plug =20 >> ins to the location that suits me best and haven't had any issues. =20= >> Just remember that when you do updates, etc, the installers won't =20 >> find the plug ins where they expect they should be. >> >> Jack Tunnicliffe >> Java Post Production >> 402, 2206 Dewdney ave. >> Regina, SK >> Canada >> S4R 1H3 >> P. 306-777-0150 >> cell. 306-536-4321 >> www.javapost.ca >> ______________ >> >> >> >> On Feb 5, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Scott Carmichael =20 >> wrote: >> >>> In CS6 (os X), anyone know if there are any issues of moving my =20 >>> plug-ins from the adobe /library/app support/ adobe/common /plug-=20 >>> ins/cs6 folder to the Applications/After Effetcs/Plug-ins folder? >>> >>> I don't want to wait on Premiere and Media Encoder to load the =20 >>> plug-ins when I launch them. I want to leave them for AE only. >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Scott >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >> > --Apple-Mail-2--426470916 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've had lots of problems with Adobe's plug in management lately. For = some reason several lug-ins managed to get installed into the App = Support folder, and into the After Effects/Plug Ins folder. I guess if = you install the version for Premeir and the version for AE separately = maybe...But I would turn on AE or Prem and go get a cup of tea, return = to my desk not to find the app booted and ready to work, but hung at a = stupid dialog box telling me I had duplicates and blah blah = blah.

Anyhow I foolishly tried to manage the = situation myself (and you know how Adobe, like Apple, HATES to = relinquish control of anything to do with its software) by moving the = plug ins out of the App Support folder. Since then I got hangs at the = boot screen.

I moved all the PIs back into the = APp Support folder, even ones that were not there before, and emptied = the AE PI folder, and that bollocked things up even more; some PIs would = not be found, some still showed the duplicate message. So annoying. I've = found the Abobe bloat in its support file structure to puzzling. I'll = admit to knowing nothing about software development, but there is no = other publisher I deal with that creates such bloat. It seems really = inefficient. And the plug in management feels indicative of this. =  Why does it matter how many of the same PI I have installed, load = the first one and ignore the rest. And why are there multiple ways to = install a PI; pick a method and go with it. Save the confusion. Audio = VSTs are handled this way. They only go in the VST folder in the = Library. Done. I always know where to go look for troublesome VSTs and I = never ever get duplicates.



On Feb 5, 2013, at 12:35 PM, patrick Siemer = wrote:

a couple weeks ago I had a painfully.....long.... = plugin.....loading....experience........with.........Media........Encoder.=  
I seriously dreaded opening it again.
But I have had no = further problems. 
 It may be just  a one time = wait for indexing or something like that. if that is what happened to = scare you.
I would give it another chance.
by all = means abort them if it continues.
Just guessing here, = sorry.
I will try to avoid needless conjecture in the = future.


patrick = siemer


On Feb 5, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Jack = Tunnicliffe wrote

I don't think you'll = have any issues. I occasionally move my plug ins to the location that = suits me best and haven't had any issues. Just remember that when you do = updates, etc, the installers won't find the plug ins where they expect = they should be. 

Jack = Tunnicliffe
402, 2206 = Dewdney ave.
Regina, SK
Canada
S4R = 1H3
P. 306-777-0150
cell. 306-536-4321

On Feb 5, = 2013, at 2:03 PM, Scott Carmichael <sacarmic@indiana.edu> = wrote:

In CS6 (os X), anyone know if  there are any issues = of moving my plug-ins from the adobe /library/app support/ adobe/common = /plug-ins/cs6 folder to the Applications/After Effetcs/Plug-ins = folder?

I don't want to wait on Premiere and Media Encoder to = load the plug-ins when I launch them.  I want to leave them for AE = only.


Thanks,
Scott
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