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[71.63.186.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id br7sm3596644igb.0.2013.02.06.06.52.39 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Feb 2013 06:52:41 -0800 (PST) From: Carey Dissmore Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_55CF337F-D739-4CBD-A347-BCCA09CC6F14" Message-Id: <7D3CE98A-8A46-4F18-B051-2B623D5D2587@imugonline.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) Subject: Re: [AE] New MacBook Pro Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 08:52:37 -0600 References: To: "After Effects Mail List" In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkxgdLHObitcur5ib++Y0mID8NqqGbuI8kEGyf2N1k8QMhEJG4wOEso4Loc9GYsqF4FHPQQ --Apple-Mail=_55CF337F-D739-4CBD-A347-BCCA09CC6F14 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Cool.=20 For comparison I ran Cinebench 11.5 on two machines here: Retina MBP 15" 2.3ghz quad-core i7 8GB RAM OpenGL Performance: 35.25 FPS CPU: 6.10 CPU (Single Core): 1.24 MP Ratio: 4.92x i7 6 core 3930k desktop GTX680 64GB RAM (I'll run this again overclocked = at some point) OpenGL Performance: 46.87 FPS CPU: 9.93 CPU (Single Core): 1.4 MP Ratio: 7.10x Carey On Feb 6, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Andrew Embury wrote: > So here's the results from the ASUS G75 SSD Version Gaming Laptop. >=20 > Running Cinebench 11.5: >=20 > OpenGL Performance: 42.76 FPS > CPU: 6.17 > CPU (Single Core): 1.31 > MP Ratio: 4.70x >=20 > Have a great day everyone! Massage those keyframes! ;) >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Teddy Gage = wrote: > Actually I believe it's an apple issue. I did some extensive research = to get my own setup up and running. I also was having network discovery = issues. to summarize, when apple switched to their own implementation of = SMB they did something weird; they only left something like 5 kb to = address file server names whereas it was something like 100kb in OS 10.6 = and below. If you have more than a handful of servers, network discovery = with windows either won't load, crashes, or glitches out. this is why = you can connect directly if you know the IP address. However if you have = dynamic IPs this can be a huge pain, as obviously ip address changes. = But you can also use the computer's network name, which is what I do. = you can also either install the previous smb handling or there's another = workaround mentioned here I think.=20 >=20 > http://www.macwindows.com/snowleopard-filesharing.html#090209d >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Stephen van Vuuren = wrote: > > Looked at cinemartin... whats the deal with it ? how much ? no = mention on > their site. >=20 > It's not in huge letters but on the page it's released freeware. >=20 > > I went thru OS resintalls, every config imaginable and win 7 just = refuses > to network discover correctly. >=20 > That's a weird problem - don't think 3com switches are likely the = issue > although it's not impossible if some kind of TCP port blocking is in = place. > It's possible you have some other device on your network (printer, = media > streamer etc.) - some of those devices screw with networking in = general. >=20 > XP had a much simpler and more insecure network stack - thus less = prone to > issues. >=20 > stephen van vuuren > 336.202.4777 >=20 > http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ > http://www.sv2dcp.com/ > http://www.sv2studios.com/ >=20 > A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It = should be a > progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind the = emotion, the > meaning, all that comes later. > -Stanley Kubrick >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On = Behalf Of > Steve Oakley > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 3:21 PM > To: After Effects Mail List > Subject: Re: [AE] New MacBook Pro >=20 >=20 > On Feb 5, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Stephen van Vuuren = > wrote: >=20 > >> that "other than a few codecs" is a HUGE problem for me. not being > >> able to > > write prores is a real show stopper. > > > > There are several FFMPEG and other solutions out there - including = this: > > http://www.cinemartin.com/cinec/ just released. >=20 > I've been aware of the FFMPEG thing, but its just not a terribly = practical > tool for everyday use. Looked at cinemartin... whats the deal with it = ? how > much ? no mention on their site. I saw another ProRes encoder but it = was > rather pricey. Cineform is too expensive per seat to consider ( free = ver > doesn't do alpha channel last time I looked ) and just not used widely > enough with the people I have to deal with.... and if they spec ProRes = HQ > thats what they want. >=20 > while workable for final delivery, not sure about everyday work as > intermediates in the process where you are doing updates on something = all > day long. >=20 >=20 > > > >> then there are the win7 networking problems > > > > You must have a setup issue. I have Linux, Mac (Hackintosh) and > > Windows 7 all happy together and networked - critical part of my > > workflow. As long as you don't turn Homegroup on, life is good. = Linux > > is an Unbuntu box. Like any cross-platform setup some easy > > configuration is needed - but nothing beyond some basic settings in = the > GUI. >=20 > its entirely possible that the 3COM switches I have are the problem. = I've > considered that but don't have an option for the moment to change them = out > to see if thats the problem. >=20 > I went thru OS resintalls, every config imaginable and win 7 just = refuses to > network discover correctly. the work around was to do a direct open of = the > share via smb/IP and make shortcuts on the desktop. that usually = worked. its > when something new shows up you have to track down the IP of the new = thing. > Also odd bits - discovery did work for one day, then never again. = never > figured out how that happened. win7 does see 2 enet printers and the = router. > I never had these problems with XP. >=20 >=20 > > > >> too many workflow stoppers > > > > I'm not actually aware of single workflow stopper other than if you > > have apps or hardware that simply won't function on anything but = Apple > > and the cost of replacing them is too high. >=20 >=20 > well the problems I've had resulted in huge amounts of wasted time = with no > resolution. I spent more time messing around than doing real work. >=20 > S > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to >=20 >=20 >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Animator & Editor > www.teddygage.com > Brooklyn >=20 --Apple-Mail=_55CF337F-D739-4CBD-A347-BCCA09CC6F14 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1

OpenGL Performance: 35.25 =  FPS
CPU: 6.10
CPU (Single Core): = 1.24
MP Ratio: = 4.92x


i7 6 core 3930k = desktop GTX680 64GB RAM (I'll run this again overclocked at some = point)

OpenGL Performance: 46.87 = FPS
CPU: 9.93
CPU (Single Core): 1.4
MP = Ratio: = 7.10x

Carey



On Feb 6, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Andrew Embury = <aembury@gmail.com> = wrote:

So here's the results from the ASUS G75 = SSD Version Gaming Laptop.

Running Cinebench = 11.5:

OpenGL Performance: = 42.76 FPS
CPU: 6.17
CPU (Single Core): 1.31
MP Ratio: = 4.70x

Have a great day = everyone! Massage those keyframes! ;)


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> = wrote:
Actually I believe it's an apple issue. I did some extensive research to = get my own setup up and running. I also was having network discovery = issues. to summarize, when apple switched to their own implementation of = SMB they did something weird; they only left something like 5 kb to = address file server names whereas it was something like 100kb in OS 10.6 = and below. If you have more than a handful of servers, network discovery = with windows either won't load, crashes, or glitches out. this is why = you can connect directly if you know the IP address. However if you have = dynamic IPs this can be a huge pain, as obviously ip address changes. = But you can also use the computer's network name, which is what I do. = you can also either install the previous smb handling or there's another = workaround mentioned here I think. 

http://www.macwindows.com/snowleopard-filesharing.html#0= 90209d


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Stephen van Vuuren <stephen@sv2studios.com> wrote:
> Looked at = cinemartin... whats the deal with it ? how much ? no mention on
their site.

It's not in huge letters but on the page it's released = freeware.

> I went thru OS resintalls, every config imaginable and win 7 just = refuses
to network discover correctly.

That's a weird problem - don't think 3com switches are likely the = issue
although it's not impossible if some kind of TCP port blocking is in = place.
It's possible you have some other device on your network (printer, = media
streamer etc.) - some of those devices screw with networking in = general.

XP had a much simpler and more insecure network stack - thus less prone = to
issues.

stephen van vuuren
336.202.4777

http://www.insaturnsrings.com/
http://www.sv2dcp.com/
http://www.sv2studios.com/

A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It should = be a
progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind the emotion, = the
meaning, all that comes later.
-Stanley Kubrick


-----Original Message-----
From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of
Steve Oakley
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 3:21 PM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] New MacBook Pro


On Feb 5, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Stephen van Vuuren <stephen@sv2studios.com>
wrote:

>> that "other than a few codecs" is a HUGE problem for me. not = being
>> able to
> write prores is a real show stopper.
>
> There are several FFMPEG and other solutions out there - including = this:
> http://www.cinemartin.com/cinec/ just = released.

I've been aware of the FFMPEG thing, but its just not a terribly = practical
tool for everyday use. Looked at cinemartin... whats the deal with it ? = how
much ? no mention on their site. I saw another ProRes encoder but it = was
rather pricey. Cineform is too expensive per seat to consider ( free = ver
doesn't do alpha channel last time I looked ) and just not used = widely
enough with the people I have to deal with.... and if they spec ProRes = HQ
thats what they want.

while workable for final delivery, not sure about everyday work as
intermediates in the process where you are doing updates on something = all
day long.


>
>> then there are the win7 networking problems
>
> You must have a setup issue. I have Linux, Mac (Hackintosh) and
> Windows 7 all happy together and networked - critical part of = my
> workflow. As long as you don't turn Homegroup on, life is good. = Linux
> is an Unbuntu box. Like any cross-platform setup some easy
> configuration is needed - but nothing beyond some basic settings in = the
GUI.

its entirely possible that the 3COM switches I have are the problem. = I've
considered that but don't have an option for the moment to change them = out
to see if thats the problem.

I went thru OS resintalls, every config imaginable and win 7 just = refuses to
network discover correctly. the work around was to do a direct open of = the
share via smb/IP and make shortcuts on the desktop. that usually worked. = its
when something new shows up you have to track down the IP of the new = thing.
Also odd bits - discovery did work for one day, then never again. = never
figured out how that happened. win7 does see 2 enet printers and the = router.
I never had these problems with XP.


>
>> too many workflow stoppers
>
> I'm not actually aware of single workflow stopper other than if = you
> have apps or hardware that simply won't function on anything but = Apple
> and the cost of replacing them is too high.


well the problems I've had resulted in huge amounts of wasted time with = no
resolution. I spent more time messing around than doing real work.

S
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