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From: Enrique Gamez To: After Effects Mail List Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Must you have C4D to run Cinebench? In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3442987526_15941187" > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3442987526_15941187 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Just wondering if I could test the potential of running it on my laptop. -e From: Andrew Embury Reply-To: After Effects Mail List Date: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 6:10 AM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] New MacBook Pro So here's the results from the ASUS G75 SSD Version Gaming Laptop. Running Cinebench 11.5: OpenGL Performance: 42.76 FPS CPU: 6.17 CPU (Single Core): 1.31 MP Ratio: 4.70x Have a great day everyone! Massage those keyframes! ;) On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: > Actually I believe it's an apple issue. I did some extensive research to get > my own setup up and running. I also was having network discovery issues. to > summarize, when apple switched to their own implementation of SMB they did > something weird; they only left something like 5 kb to address file server > names whereas it was something like 100kb in OS 10.6 and below. If you have > more than a handful of servers, network discovery with windows either won't > load, crashes, or glitches out. this is why you can connect directly if you > know the IP address. However if you have dynamic IPs this can be a huge pain, > as obviously ip address changes. But you can also use the computer's network > name, which is what I do. you can also either install the previous smb > handling or there's another workaround mentioned here I think. > > http://www.macwindows.com/snowleopard-filesharing.html#090209d > > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Stephen van Vuuren > wrote: >>> > Looked at cinemartin... whats the deal with it ? how much ? no mention on >> their site. >> >> It's not in huge letters but on the page it's released freeware. >> >>> > I went thru OS resintalls, every config imaginable and win 7 just refuses >> to network discover correctly. >> >> That's a weird problem - don't think 3com switches are likely the issue >> although it's not impossible if some kind of TCP port blocking is in place. >> It's possible you have some other device on your network (printer, media >> streamer etc.) - some of those devices screw with networking in general. >> >> XP had a much simpler and more insecure network stack - thus less prone to >> issues. >> >> stephen van vuuren >> 336.202.4777 >> >> http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ >> http://www.sv2dcp.com/ >> http://www.sv2studios.com/ >> >> A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It should be a >> progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind the emotion, the >> meaning, all that comes later. >> -Stanley Kubrick >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of >> Steve Oakley >> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 3:21 PM >> To: After Effects Mail List >> Subject: Re: [AE] New MacBook Pro >> >> >> On Feb 5, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Stephen van Vuuren >> wrote: >> >>>> >> that "other than a few codecs" is a HUGE problem for me. not being >>>> >> able to >>> > write prores is a real show stopper. >>> > >>> > There are several FFMPEG and other solutions out there - including this: >>> > http://www.cinemartin.com/cinec/ just released. >> >> I've been aware of the FFMPEG thing, but its just not a terribly practical >> tool for everyday use. Looked at cinemartin... whats the deal with it ? how >> much ? no mention on their site. I saw another ProRes encoder but it was >> rather pricey. Cineform is too expensive per seat to consider ( free ver >> doesn't do alpha channel last time I looked ) and just not used widely >> enough with the people I have to deal with.... and if they spec ProRes HQ >> thats what they want. >> >> while workable for final delivery, not sure about everyday work as >> intermediates in the process where you are doing updates on something all >> day long. >> >> >>> > >>>> >> then there are the win7 networking problems >>> > >>> > You must have a setup issue. I have Linux, Mac (Hackintosh) and >>> > Windows 7 all happy together and networked - critical part of my >>> > workflow. As long as you don't turn Homegroup on, life is good. Linux >>> > is an Unbuntu box. Like any cross-platform setup some easy >>> > configuration is needed - but nothing beyond some basic settings in the >> GUI. >> >> its entirely possible that the 3COM switches I have are the problem. I've >> considered that but don't have an option for the moment to change them out >> to see if thats the problem. >> >> I went thru OS resintalls, every config imaginable and win 7 just refuses to >> network discover correctly. the work around was to do a direct open of the >> share via smb/IP and make shortcuts on the desktop. that usually worked. its >> when something new shows up you have to track down the IP of the new thing. >> Also odd bits - discovery did work for one day, then never again. never >> figured out how that happened. win7 does see 2 enet printers and the router. >> I never had these problems with XP. >> >> >>> > >>>> >> too many workflow stoppers >>> > >>> > I'm not actually aware of single workflow stopper other than if you >>> > have apps or hardware that simply won't function on anything but Apple >>> > and the cost of replacing them is too high. >> >> >> well the problems I've had resulted in huge amounts of wasted time with no >> resolution. I spent more time messing around than doing real work. >> >> S >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >> >> >> >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to > > > > -- > Animator & Editor > www.teddygage.com > Brooklyn --B_3442987526_15941187 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Just wondering if I could te= st the potential of running it on my laptop.
-e


From: Andrew Embury <= ;aembury@gmail.com>
Reply-To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Date: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 6:10 AM
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Subject: Re: [AE] New MacBook Pro
<= div>
So here's the results from the ASUS G75 SSD Ver= sion Gaming Laptop.

Running Cinebench 11.5:

OpenGL Performance: 42.76 FPS
CPU: 6.17
CPU (Single Core): 1.31
M= P Ratio: 4.70x

Have a great day e= veryone! Massage those keyframes! ;)

On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> = wrote:
Actually I believe it's an apple issue. I did some extensive research to ge= t my own setup up and running. I also was having network discovery issues. t= o summarize, when apple switched to their own implementation of SMB they did= something weird; they only left something like 5 kb to address file server = names whereas it was something like 100kb in OS 10.6 and below. If you have = more than a handful of servers, network discovery with windows either won't = load, crashes, or glitches out. this is why you can connect directly if you = know the IP address. However if you have dynamic IPs this can be a huge pain= , as obviously ip address changes. But you can also use the computer's netwo= rk name, which is what I do. you can also either install the previous smb ha= ndling or there's another workaround mentioned here I think. 

<= /div>
http://www.macwindows.com/snowleopard-filesharing.htm= l#090209d


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Stephen van Vuuren <stephen@sv2studios.com> wrote:
> Looked at cinema= rtin... whats the deal with it ? how much ? no mention on
their site.

It's not in huge letters but on the page it's rele= ased freeware.

> I went thru OS resintalls, every config imaginable and win 7 just refu= ses
to network discover correctly.

That's a weird problem - don't = think 3com switches are likely the issue
although it's not impossible if some kind of TCP port blocking is in place.=
It's possible you have some other device on your network (printer, media streamer etc.) - some of those devices screw with networking in general.
XP had a much simpler and more insecure network stack - thus less prone to<= br> issues.

stephen van vuuren
336.202.4777

http://www.insaturnsrings.com/
http://www.sv2dcp.com/
http://www.sv2studios.com/

A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It should be = a
progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind the emotion, th= e
meaning, all that comes later.
-Stanley Kubrick


-----Original Message-----
From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of
Steve Oakley
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 3:21 PM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] New MacBook Pro=


On Feb 5, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Stephen van Vuuren = <stephen@sv2studi= os.com>
wrote:

>> that "other than a few codecs" is a HUGE problem for me. not being=
>> able to
> write prores is a real show stopper.
>
> There are several FFMPEG and other solutions out there - including thi= s:
> http://www.= cinemartin.com/cinec/ just released.

I've been aware of the FFMPEG thing, but its just not a terribly practical<= br> tool for everyday use. Looked at cinemartin... whats the deal with it ? how=
much ? no mention on their site. I saw another ProRes encoder but it was rather pricey. Cineform is too expensive per seat to consider ( free ver doesn't do alpha channel last time I looked ) and just not used widely
enough with the people I have to deal with.... and if they spec ProRes HQ thats what they want.

while workable for final delivery, not sure about everyday work as
intermediates in the process where you are doing updates on something all day long.


>
>> then there are the win7 networking problems
>
> You must have a setup issue. I have Linux, Mac (Hackintosh) and
> Windows 7 all happy together and networked - critical part of my
> workflow. As long as you don't turn Homegroup on, life is good. Linux<= br> > is an Unbuntu box. Like any cross-platform setup some easy
> configuration is needed - but nothing beyond some basic settings in th= e
GUI.

its entirely possible that the 3COM switches I have are the problem. I've considered that but don't have an option for the moment to change them out<= br> to see if thats the problem.

I went thru OS resintalls, every config imaginable and win 7 just refuses t= o
network discover correctly. the work around was to do a direct open of the<= br> share via smb/IP and make shortcuts on the desktop. that usually worked. it= s
when something new shows up you have to track down the IP of the new thing.=
Also odd bits - discovery did work for one day, then never again. never
= figured out how that happened. win7 does see 2 enet printers and the router= .
I never had these problems with XP.


>
>> too many workflow stoppers
>
> I'm not actually aware of single workflow stopper other than if you > have apps or hardware that simply won't function on anything but Apple=
> and the cost of replacing them is too high.


well the problems I've had resulted in huge amounts of wasted time with no<= br> resolution. I spent more time messing around than doing real work.

S
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