Return-Path: Received: from mail-ia0-f175.google.com ([209.85.210.175] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 4969207 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 18:25:25 +0100 Received: by mail-ia0-f175.google.com with SMTP id r4so1875883iaj.34 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 09:31:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Pd5NfdUkD9uQ+cZICgZdBXTKxwN29UeVecZEdJN2o0s=; b=q4LXeCrBIHTDFun4GTanhuqqVjGcmKjRp8X3u3F5LHV8Jnv8wl99XwSvoS/mqr6F8n AO+MF9/9AS8t9cgFwOv8ydm8gxesFY2+BTUopM1rJQ/aF8ki/Aubi7lYUXH23tkC806t IKVFbPoH/X+x6Pqfx+QWx7b8asBejFO7A6aQGwTur+a5q2M6UXs/hFjLVPObFlybe3to SVBHjvC3EquZ4BF0UteeQo1HdmCEIXoSTJxyeIQ5ulOv2v0bgfBAf6jbHvxtU/m74Pmo Uyb+Hhm7QGsx258hkhnOUC2I8ofere04PQJ7d+J4EsU5BrDNRCOfOz3QBQdsWLybTIPC 8S2Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.88.133 with SMTP id bg5mr31912igb.29.1360171879245; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 09:31:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.27.225 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 09:31:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 12:31:19 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Must you have C4D to run Cinebench? From: Andrew Embury To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f234ee5b2274c04d511b119 --e89a8f234ee5b2274c04d511b119 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Here you go: http://www.maxon.net/products/cinebench/overview.html On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Enrique Gamez wrote: > Just wondering if I could test the potential of running it on my laptop. > -e > > > From: Andrew Embury > Reply-To: After Effects Mail List > Date: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 6:10 AM > To: After Effects Mail List > Subject: Re: [AE] New MacBook Pro > > So here's the results from the ASUS G75 SSD Version Gaming Laptop. > > Running Cinebench 11.5: > > OpenGL Performance: 42.76 FPS > CPU: 6.17 > CPU (Single Core): 1.31 > MP Ratio: 4.70x > > Have a great day everyone! Massage those keyframes! ;) > > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: > >> Actually I believe it's an apple issue. I did some extensive research to >> get my own setup up and running. I also was having network discovery >> issues. to summarize, when apple switched to their own implementation of >> SMB they did something weird; they only left something like 5 kb to address >> file server names whereas it was something like 100kb in OS 10.6 and below. >> If you have more than a handful of servers, network discovery with windows >> either won't load, crashes, or glitches out. this is why you can connect >> directly if you know the IP address. However if you have dynamic IPs this >> can be a huge pain, as obviously ip address changes. But you can also use >> the computer's network name, which is what I do. you can also either >> install the previous smb handling or there's another workaround mentioned >> here I think. >> >> http://www.macwindows.com/snowleopard-filesharing.html#090209d >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Stephen van Vuuren < >> stephen@sv2studios.com> wrote: >> >>> > Looked at cinemartin... whats the deal with it ? how much ? no mention >>> on >>> their site. >>> >>> It's not in huge letters but on the page it's released freeware. >>> >>> > I went thru OS resintalls, every config imaginable and win 7 just >>> refuses >>> to network discover correctly. >>> >>> That's a weird problem - don't think 3com switches are likely the issue >>> although it's not impossible if some kind of TCP port blocking is in >>> place. >>> It's possible you have some other device on your network (printer, media >>> streamer etc.) - some of those devices screw with networking in general. >>> >>> XP had a much simpler and more insecure network stack - thus less prone >>> to >>> issues. >>> >>> stephen van vuuren >>> 336.202.4777 >>> >>> http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ >>> http://www.sv2dcp.com/ >>> http://www.sv2studios.com/ >>> >>> A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It should >>> be a >>> progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind the emotion, >>> the >>> meaning, all that comes later. >>> -Stanley Kubrick >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On >>> Behalf Of >>> Steve Oakley >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 3:21 PM >>> To: After Effects Mail List >>> Subject: Re: [AE] New MacBook Pro >>> >>> >>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Stephen van Vuuren >>> wrote: >>> >>> >> that "other than a few codecs" is a HUGE problem for me. not being >>> >> able to >>> > write prores is a real show stopper. >>> > >>> > There are several FFMPEG and other solutions out there - including >>> this: >>> > http://www.cinemartin.com/cinec/ just released. >>> >>> I've been aware of the FFMPEG thing, but its just not a terribly >>> practical >>> tool for everyday use. Looked at cinemartin... whats the deal with it ? >>> how >>> much ? no mention on their site. I saw another ProRes encoder but it was >>> rather pricey. Cineform is too expensive per seat to consider ( free ver >>> doesn't do alpha channel last time I looked ) and just not used widely >>> enough with the people I have to deal with.... and if they spec ProRes HQ >>> thats what they want. >>> >>> while workable for final delivery, not sure about everyday work as >>> intermediates in the process where you are doing updates on something all >>> day long. >>> >>> >>> > >>> >> then there are the win7 networking problems >>> > >>> > You must have a setup issue. I have Linux, Mac (Hackintosh) and >>> > Windows 7 all happy together and networked - critical part of my >>> > workflow. As long as you don't turn Homegroup on, life is good. Linux >>> > is an Unbuntu box. Like any cross-platform setup some easy >>> > configuration is needed - but nothing beyond some basic settings in the >>> GUI. >>> >>> its entirely possible that the 3COM switches I have are the problem. I've >>> considered that but don't have an option for the moment to change them >>> out >>> to see if thats the problem. >>> >>> I went thru OS resintalls, every config imaginable and win 7 just >>> refuses to >>> network discover correctly. the work around was to do a direct open of >>> the >>> share via smb/IP and make shortcuts on the desktop. that usually worked. >>> its >>> when something new shows up you have to track down the IP of the new >>> thing. >>> Also odd bits - discovery did work for one day, then never again. never >>> figured out how that happened. win7 does see 2 enet printers and the >>> router. >>> I never had these problems with XP. >>> >>> >>> > >>> >> too many workflow stoppers >>> > >>> > I'm not actually aware of single workflow stopper other than if you >>> > have apps or hardware that simply won't function on anything but Apple >>> > and the cost of replacing them is too high. >>> >>> >>> well the problems I've had resulted in huge amounts of wasted time with >>> no >>> resolution. I spent more time messing around than doing real work. >>> >>> S >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>> >>> >>> >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Animator & Editor >> www.teddygage.com >> Brooklyn >> > > --e89a8f234ee5b2274c04d511b119 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Enrique Gamez <enrique0210@sbcglo= bal.net> wrote:
Just wondering if I could test the potential of running it on m= y laptop.
-e


From: Andrew Embury <aembury@gmail.com>
<= span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Reply-To: After Effects Mail List &= lt;AE-List@med= ia-motion.tv>
Date: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 = 6:10 AM
To: After Effects Mail = List <AE-Li= st@media-motion.tv>
Subject: Re: [AE] New MacBook Pro<= br>

So here's the results from the= ASUS G75 SSD Version Gaming Laptop.

Running Cinebench 1= 1.5:

OpenGL Performance: 42.76 FPS
CPU: 6.17
=
CPU (Single Core): 1.31
MP Ratio: 4.70x

=
Have a great day everyone! Massage those keyframes! ;)


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
Actually I believe it's an apple issue. I did some extensive research t= o get my own setup up and running. I also was having network discovery issu= es. to summarize, when apple switched to their own implementation of SMB th= ey did something weird; they only left something like 5 kb to address file = server names whereas it was something like 100kb in OS 10.6 and below. If y= ou have more than a handful of servers, network discovery with windows eith= er won't load, crashes, or glitches out. this is why you can connect di= rectly if you know the IP address. However if you have dynamic IPs this can= be a huge pain, as obviously ip address changes. But you can also use the = computer's network name, which is what I do. you can also either instal= l the previous smb handling or there's another workaround mentioned her= e I think.=A0

http://www.macwindows.com/snowleopard-file= sharing.html#090209d


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Stephen van Vuuren <stephen@sv2studio= s.com> wrote:
> Looked at cinemartin... whats the deal with it ? how much ? no me= ntion on
their site.

It's not in huge letters but on the page it= 9;s released freeware.

> I went thru OS resintalls, every config imaginable and win 7 just refu= ses
to network discover correctly.

That's a weird problem - do= n't think 3com switches are likely the issue
although it's not impossible if some kind of TCP port blocking is in pl= ace.
It's possible you have some other device on your network (printer, medi= a
streamer etc.) - some of those devices screw with networking in general.
XP had a much simpler and more insecure network stack - thus less prone to<= br> issues.

stephen van vuuren
336.202.4777

http://www.insaturnsrings.com/
http://www.sv2dcp.com/
http://www.sv2stud= ios.com/

A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It should be = a
progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind the emotion= , the
meaning, all that comes later.
-Stanley Kubrick


-----Original Message-----
From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of
Steve Oakley
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 3:21 PM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] New MacBook Pro=


On Feb 5, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Stephen van Vuuren= <stephen@sv= 2studios.com>
wrote:

>> that "other than a few codecs" is a HUGE problem for me.= not being
>> able to
> write prores is a real show stopper.
>
> There are several FFMPEG and other solutions out there - including thi= s:
> http://= www.cinemartin.com/cinec/ just released.

I've been aware of the FFMPEG thing, but its just not a terribly practi= cal
tool for everyday use. Looked at cinemartin... whats the deal with it ? how=
much ? no mention on their site. I saw another ProRes encoder but it was rather pricey. Cineform is too expensive per seat to consider ( free ver doesn't do alpha channel last time I looked ) and just not used widely<= br> enough with the people I have to deal with.... and if they spec ProRes HQ thats what they want.

while workable for final delivery, not sure about everyday work as
intermediates in the process where you are doing updates on something all day long.


>
>> then there are the win7 networking problems
>
> You must have a setup issue. I have Linux, Mac (Hackintosh) and
> Windows 7 all happy together and networked - critical part of my
> workflow. As long as you don't turn Homegroup on, life is good. Li= nux
> is an Unbuntu box. Like any cross-platform setup some easy
> configuration is needed - but nothing beyond some basic settings in th= e
GUI.

its entirely possible that the 3COM switches I have are the problem. I'= ve
considered that but don't have an option for the moment to change them = out
to see if thats the problem.

I went thru OS resintalls, every config imaginable and win 7 just refuses t= o
network discover correctly. the work around was to do a direct open of the<= br> share via smb/IP and make shortcuts on the desktop. that usually worked. it= s
when something new shows up you have to track down the IP of the new thing.=
Also odd bits - discovery did work for one day, then never again. never
figured out how that happened. win7 does see 2 enet printers and the router= .
I never had these problems with XP.


>
>> too many workflow stoppers
>
> I'm not actually aware of single workflow stopper other than if yo= u
> have apps or hardware that simply won't function on anything but A= pple
> and the cost of replacing them is too high.


well the problems I've had resulted in huge amounts of wasted time with= no
resolution. I spent more time messing around than doing real work.

S
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